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Try Again 

YDS: 5.10b/c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 65'
Original:  YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: FA: Jim McCarthy & Hans Kraus - 1955
FFA: Rich Goldstone, Jim McCarthy, & Ray Schrag - 1967
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Submitted By: Josh Janes on Feb 21, 2006

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Steve Amter moving up to the rest at the crux. A b...


Try Again is just left of Coexistence -- an excellent climb on a totally stacked section of the cliff. It's generally well protected, and could be considered a good warmup for the other climbs here if it weren't so difficult itself.

Follow a right-facing corner system in white rock (usually some sort of fixed pro) to a two-bolt anchor.


Standard Rack.

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By JoeLeiper
Feb 19, 2008

Very fond of this pitch. First 5.10 lead, mid-October '77. Late afternoon, windy and faint rain. Crux corner works up nicely 5.8, 5.9 a few moves each; good stance for pro. Then two quick hard moves past the roof. Flashed it. Smug satisfaction as my two companions--both considerably better climbers--grunted ponderously through the crux.
By vanishing spy
Apr 19, 2010

I'll note here that a large block fell off this climb, high up and right below the crux. I think this happened a year or two ago. In any case, it's been pointed out to me on two separate occasions and I believe it's true (I'd never been up the route before this happened).
By Chris Duca
From: Havertown, PA
Apr 22, 2010
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b PG13

I would also add that a small brassie and a .75 protect the flexing pin at the crux. However, these two peices are well below the pin and would, no doubt, provide for a nice ride if/when the pin fails. Above the pin, the moves are pretty "heads-up", until you get to the crack below the small overlap about 7-8 feet up. To me, this route's crux felt pretty brutal (read: hard) compared to climbs of similar difficulty.
By Greg Sudlow
From: PA
May 14, 2010

A stout 5.10b. Note, after climbing to the large ledge 15 feet up place a piece in the shoulder high flake before moving up the face on good holds to the crack above. It will be awhile until you get another piece of pro and although the flake piece won’t protect you from crashing into the ledge if you fall, it will keep you from tumbling and hitting the deck below.
By Nick Weinberg
From: Lyme, NH
Nov 8, 2011

Crux is strenuous and bouldery, protected by a flexy pin. Also ledge-fall potential lower down with tricky gear, but relatively easy climbing. Overall I was a little dissapointed by this climb......but maybe that's because I don't really love strenuous and bouldery moves above a flexy pin. Call me a wimp.
By lucander
From: Stone Ridge, NY
Feb 8, 2012
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

My least favorite of the Mac Wall "tens," very ledgy and broken up. Crux feels a lot harder since the block fell off because the stance below it is not as secure any more. Good luck onsighting the cryptic roof, if not "try again."
By Colin R
From: Ottawa, ON
Mar 18, 2012
rating: 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b PG13

I fell on the pin today. This route is hard to onsight because some of the holds near the crux are not well chalked and are pretty camouflaged against the orange patina. I pulled right past a nice crimpy rail above the roof that is key to the crux sequence. After the fall I finished up, but as Chris said there are still a few heady moves above the pin. I think the pin is ok for falls but you never know with older pins.

One other thing worth mentioning is that there are some technical moves right above the first ledge. Keep your eyes peeled out left for a small slotted-nut placement. This is the only thing I could find to protect that section, which felt about 5.9 (this is right before going into the right facing dihedral).
By cPay
From: Riverdale, NY
Apr 29, 2014
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

Hold breakage or not, there is still a no hands rest under the roof. 5.10b no more, the hardest part of pulling the roof is establishing both feet above said roof. Figuring out the sequence is part of the enjoyment of the climb, I am glad this is not covered with 'chalked holds'. The move off the first ledge is definitely a bit R, be careful, it is easy compared to the crux, but you could fall on the ledge and break an ankle pretty easily. At the crux, the pin inspires some confidence (i guess) but the gear in the crack below is more than adequate to protect the crux. AWESOME ROUTE!
By Andy Casler
From: Plymouth, NH
Jun 29, 2014
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b PG13

I found this to be a very exciting (kind of scary) climb with good moves.

I think the move off the grassy ledge is 5.9 PG-13 if you're shorter than ~5' 10", but it was manageable for me at 5' 8". The danger would come if you stumbled off the grassy ledge after missing the move. Before making the move off the ledge I found 2 marginal opposing RPs and a .1 x4 about three feet right of the route.

I fell several times on the fixed pin at the crux while projecting this route. Held fine!
By Andy Weinmann
From: Silver Spring, MD
Nov 1, 2014
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

Dunno what the grey Dick guide is talking about with a blue camalot being helpful on this one near the crux. Directly right of the flexy pin at the crux is a vertical pin scar...a #000 C3 will go (or as I found out, a purple C3 with 2.5 lobes engaged). Luckily I didn't have to test either piece.
By SethG
Nov 12, 2014

Andy, the cam placement at the crux mentioned in Dick's book is no longer there. The placement was behind a block that blew out in 2008.

The pin was pretty recently replaced. It appeared to be new when I first tried this route in the spring of 2014.
By Lukasz M Fidkowski
From: Berkeley, California
Aug 17, 2015

Fell on the pin yesterday, it held fine.
By Mike Hancock
Oct 13, 2015

I was looking for the 0.3 camelot placement mentioned in the guide book (hadn't read SethG's comment yet) at the crux. I managed to get the 0.3 into the undercling in the back of the roof to back up the pin. Seemed super solid to me.
By Andy Casler
From: Plymouth, NH
Jun 7, 2016
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b PG13

Mike, "Blue Camalot" in Williams guide refers to No. 3, not 0.3. Hope that saves you some trouble on Feast of Fools…
By Systematic
Aug 18, 2017
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b PG13

An upside down 00 mastercam is helpful for protecting the moves above the grassy ledge.

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