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Hueco: V6-7 Font: 7A+

Type:  Boulder, 15'
Original:  Hueco: V7 Font: 7A+ [details]
FA: J Baker?
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Submitted By: half-pad-mini-jug on Mar 21, 2009

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BETA PHOTO: Exit mantle for Tornado, traverses the bloc on the...


Sit start at the low right end of the arete with right on a jug sidepull and left on the arete, pull straight up to a crimp and match. Start making your way left on crimps on the overhanging face underneath where the boulders meet. (There is a hold on the arete where the boulders meet that is a jug if your thumb is on the other boulder, which is off for the full value.) Move left on crimps and gastons to a throw to a jug and mantle over left. Watch the block behing you, don't hit your head or use it.


This is located in the same cave as 'Known Secret'. It is on the left side of the entrance to the first cave below the Rupture Cave. See the photo.


Pads and a spotter.

Photos of Tornado Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: Frank turning the corner on Tornado.
Frank turning the corner on Tornado.
Rock Climbing Photo: Start of Tornado on right, moves left.  And John's...
BETA PHOTO: Start of Tornado on right, moves left. And John's...

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By doug rouse
From: Denver, CO.
Oct 25, 2009

Has the Arete gone from a sit start? Seems pretty hard as I kept flying-off of it yesterday. At the time I thought the line was Tornado...until I came back and read the description. I now have to go back to work on this one.
By half-pad-mini-jug
From: crauschville
Nov 12, 2009

Yes, the problem is a sit-start.
By Squish
From: Lakewood
Jun 17, 2010

This is stout V7, worked through the crux last night just need to link it together. IMHO this feels harder than both V8s I've sent recently. Great problem though can't wait to get back and finish it....
By doug rouse
From: Denver, CO.
Nov 25, 2010

Ok...I looked at the above photo. Has this gone without the right hand? I.e. going straight up the arete from a sit?
By half-pad-mini-jug
From: crauschville
Nov 25, 2010

Dunno, but it would be a silly eliminate, cuz the jug's right in your face....
By Matthew Thaler
Apr 28, 2012
rating: V5 6C

Good holds and good feet, felt like V5.
By Stephen Palermo
May 5, 2013
rating: V5 6C

Agree, if "Known Secret" is an 8, then you can't call this 7.
By Nick Turner
Apr 7, 2014

This problem, as well as the rest of the caves, have been recently defaced by graffiti.

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