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Top 5 knots you use for Trad

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Gilles · · Arcata,CA · Joined May 2009 · Points: 60

Tell me what your favorite five knots are that you think are the most important for trad.

Rick Blair · · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 266

Clove Hitch, Muenter, prussic, tape knot, fishermans.
Not necessarily in that order. I am assuming the figure 8 and figure 8 retrace.

Wiled Horse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2002 · Points: 3,669

clove

Luke to Zuke · · Anchorage · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 220

Does clove count?

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

hitches are considered part of the knot classification, they just need another property to hold their form.

used for trad:

clove, eight on a bight, overhand, double fishermans, flat overhand, waterknot -- all could be for anchor rigs, which is what I think of when you say trad.

Jon Cheifitz · · Superior/Lafayette, Co · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 90

1. Figure Eight (On a bite and not)
2. Clove Hitch
3. Water knot
4. Overhand
5. Double Fishermans

On a smooth trad climb with no hauling, extra gear and no emergencies I think that these five knots will get everything you need done from tying in to setting up anchors and repelling back down.

I also use the Double Bowline a lot for tying in when sport climbing or at the gym, but not so much when trad climbing.

Avery N · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 650

What cheifitj said. I'd make the bowline #6.

Lee Smith · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2003 · Points: 1,545

What everybody else said with one addition: The sliding overhand knot (also called the slip knot) on runners for slinging horns and such. It is amazing how much natural protection is out there if you look for it.

phil wortmann · · Colorado Springs, Co. · Joined Feb 2005 · Points: 1,186

I only use three.

1- granny
2- double granny
3- triple granny (only when it gets real dangerous)

Remember, if you can't tie knots, tie lots.

jk

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

good one Lee.

What about the webbing knot used like a stopper nut? (simple overhand/flat overhand??)

rob rebel · · Bend, OR · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 5

Never use it but good to know the Munter hitch if you loose or forget your belay device. and rarely use the prusik but it can get you out of a bad situation.

Rick Blair · · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 266
Lee Smith wrote:What everybody else said with one addition: The sliding overhand knot (also called the slip knot) on runners for slinging horns and such. It is amazing how much natural protection is out there if you look for it.
I have only used a girth hitch for that, can you point me to an illustration on how you would use a slip knot? Would you want 2 equal length loops to clip a biner?

Forget it, I grabbed a piece of rope and figured it out, actually pretty obvious.
Shane Neal · · Colorado Springs, CO. · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 265

Good question! I would say the ones I use the most are-

1. fig 8 on a bight
2. clove hitch
3. overhand on a bight
4. water knot
5. double fishermans
6. prussik- emergency, ascend and self rescue

Also, know how to properly use a cordalette, which is standard protocol IMHO.

Hvae fun, climb safe!

Sergio P · · Idaho Springs, CO · Joined Oct 2004 · Points: 185

1. I'm not climbing on that crappy rope of yours
2. I'm not fucking leading that pitch!
3. I'm not not going to drink beer when we are done.
4. I'm not going to let you lead all the good pitchs while I get the choss pitchs
5. I'm not really sure what happened to the approach trail (used mostly in the S Plate)

Opps, maybe I misunderstood your tread.

Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 883

Agree with most everything here.

1. I would replace double fishermans with overhand/euro death knot. Haven't used a fishermans in years.

2. I would replace prussic with Klemheist. Works well with round cord or flat webbing/slings. Can't say that for the prussic.

Jacob Dolence · · Farmville, VA · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 806

Good topic!

1. Clove Hitch
2. Patagonia a.k.a. edk
3. overhand on a bight
4. figure eight on a bight
5. prusik

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

For the act of climbing itself, including belaying, rapping, building anchors, and securing rope:
Figure 8
Clove hitch
Figure 8/Overhand on a bite
Tripple fishermans
Munter
In that order.

If you want to talk about rescue utility rather than the actual act of climbing, the situation changes. You need to know other stuff too.

Erik W · · Santa Cruz, CA · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 280

1. Figure eight (bite & ft)
2. Overhand
3. Clove hitch
4. Münter hitch
5. Klemheist ( > prusik...works well with cord and webbing alike)

1-3 are standard fare for everyday climbing. 4-5 are for when things don't go as planned.

Stonyman Killough · · Alabama · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 5,785

Knots.....hehe

Luke Wakefield · · Prescott · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 235

no double loops yet?

Mark Cushman · · Cumming, GA · Joined Sep 2006 · Points: 980

1. Monkey Fist
2. Windsor
3. Double knotted shoelace
4. Slip knot
5. Monkey Fist

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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