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Jun 3, 2011
One of the most enjoyable climbing experiences I ever had was a "commando" raid up an 800 foot 5.6 friction dome in Capitol Reef Nat. Mon., sans any clothes whatsoever.

The infamous Bob Dickerson and I decided to see what it was like for the human mammal to climb completely without any aid whatsoever. We enjoyed it thoroughly, although I think quite a few of the other members of our geology field trip didn't understand our motives or joy.

I'm not condoning this behavior, just supporting my right to do it.
YDPL8S
From Santa Monica, Ca.
Joined Aug 7, 2003
240 points
Jul 4, 2011
Saw this guy climbing the stepped cuts in the cliff next to the parking lot at Red Rocks. He would lower a tow rope for his kid to climb up hand over hand. Eventually another father went up to him and suggested that this might not end well and that it was in fact against the park rules. So off the the side they traversed.


Rock Climbing Photo: Father and son at Red Rocks.
Father and son at Red Rocks.
Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Joined Jan 1, 2001
1,230 points
Jul 5, 2011
That's kind of sad, actually. Toby Butterfield
From Portland, OR
Joined Aug 30, 2010
110 points
Jul 5, 2011
DannyUncanny wrote:
Evolution isn't working or not working, that's like saying, do you think the laws of physics apply to that? Or do reason and logic apply? Will 1 + 1 still equal 2? Evolution in short is just the basic fact that whatever exists is good at existing, and the things that don't exist aren't good at it. It's almost tautological.


I will disagree. Survival of the fittest has been severely slowed down. Mainly because of modern medicine.

There are millions of people alive that should be dead and out of the gene pool. Supported by drugs and vaccines.

There are people that choose terminal activities like smoking. When they get cancer modern medicine will keep them alive so they can have and raise kids.

People making bad choices at the crag does not thin the heard.
wankel7
From Indiana
Joined Oct 4, 2010
0 points
Jul 5, 2011
Toby B wrote:
That's kind of sad, actually.


What's "sad" about a father trying to get his kid outside to get some exercise and have some fun?

Yes, he broke the rules, but stopped when he was alerted to this fact. I think that's a smart move that helped teach his son to do the right thing.

I think it's kind of humorous, but I don't understand what's "sad" about the pic and description that Stich provided.

--Marc
Marc H
From Denver
Joined May 10, 2007
20 points
Jul 5, 2011
Marc H wrote:
What's "sad" about a father trying to get his kid outside to get some exercise and have some fun? Yes, he broke the rules, but stopped when he was alerted to this fact. I think that's a smart move that helped teach his son to do the right thing. I think it's kind of humorous, but I don't understand what's "sad" about the pic and description that Stich provided. --Marc


+1 Marc

I just can't seem to understand why people can't mind their own fucking business. MP seems to be full of people that just can't stand seeing someone do something they wouldn't do.


Stich, How's about you spend a little more time removing the plank from your own eye before pointing out the splinter in someone else's? Mmmmmkay? Thanks. It's not like the dude in this pic was asking for advice on an internet forum or something. He was just out having a good time with his kid, if they fall and die it looks like a reasonably easy place for SAR to do a couple body recoveries. Not yer problem or yer business. Just leave it alone.
Yarp
Joined Jan 16, 2011
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Jul 5, 2011
I meant that it was sad that he was just trying to show his kid a good time and got totally shut down. I agree that it's really great that he brought his kid out to the park to play around. That's a really cute pic and it looks like they're having a lot of fun. Toby Butterfield
From Portland, OR
Joined Aug 30, 2010
110 points
Jul 5, 2011
Yarp wrote:
Stich, How's about you spend a little more time removing the plank from your own eye before pointing out the splinter in someone else's? Mmmmmkay? Thanks.


You really should write a book called The World According to Yarp. You has gots lots to says.

Next you're going to get mad at someone telling a father not to strap their kid to a lawn chair with wheels duct taped to the legs and a rope tied to his bumper. Just havin' some fun, you smart guys!
Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Joined Jan 1, 2001
1,230 points
Jul 5, 2011
Toby B wrote:
I meant that it was sad that he was just trying to show his kid a good time and got totally shut down. I agree that it's really great that he brought his kid out to the park to play around. That's a really cute pic and it looks like they're having a lot of fun.


Ah, I guess I misunderstood what you were considering "sad." I agree that it sux that he got shut down for trying to have some fun with his kiddo.

--Marc
Marc H
From Denver
Joined May 10, 2007
20 points
Jul 5, 2011
Stich wrote:
Next you're going to get mad at someone telling a father not to strap their kid to a lawn chair with wheels duct taped to the legs and a rope tied to his bumper. Just havin' some fun, you smart guys!



Get mad? I never get mad. People read lots of things into my posts that I don't write.

As far as the contraption you describe above...it'll never work. The duct tape won't hold once he gets up to speed. He'd be much better off just pulling him in a wagon or maybe a modified shopping cart. Of course it's his choice how to tow his kid behind the car so I wouldn't offer my opinion unless asked for it. It'd be a lot easier if he just taught him how to ski.
Yarp
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Jul 5, 2011
Yarp wrote:
The duct tape won't hold once he gets up to speed.


Gorilla tape!
Marc H
From Denver
Joined May 10, 2007
20 points
Jul 5, 2011
Marc H wrote:
Gorilla tape!



That certainly would improve the possibilities of that rig holding together. Love that stuff.
Yarp
Joined Jan 16, 2011
0 points
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Jul 5, 2011
Yarp wrote:
People read lots of things into my posts that I don't write.


If they didn't, there'd be nothing in your posts worth reading.

Jay
jt512 512
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Jul 5, 2011
Jay Tanzman wrote:
If they didn't, there'd be nothing in your posts worth reading. Jay



As a moderator of this here fine site would you mind, in the future, if you are going to try to post little insulting comments, could you PLEASE do so in a fashion that is one of the following: a)funny b) witty c) sarcastic (in that dry limey sort of way) d) logical or e) all of the above.

This most recent attempt to insult me is falling short on all counts.

Please try harder. You'll get it!
Yarp
Joined Jan 16, 2011
0 points
Jul 6, 2011
Yarp wrote:
As far as the contraption you describe above...it'll never work. The duct tape won't hold once he gets up to speed.


this is 100% false how dare you slap duct tape in the face like that. Duct tape will hold anything. Infact since there is so many fires where i live i took up climbing buildings and i use it for my pro, just tape a cam or nut to the wall and continue on, its bomber took a 47.8 footer yesterday ( thumbs up) !
ian watson
From Albuquerque, NM
Joined Apr 27, 2010
200 points


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