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To Have or Have Not 

YDS: 5.12 French: 7b+ Ewbanks: 27 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 26 British: E6 6b R

   
Type:  Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 60'
Original:  YDS: 5.12 French: 7b+ Ewbanks: 27 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 26 British: E6 6b R [details]
FA: 1966 Carmen & McCarthy, FFA: 1973 Stannard
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Submitted By: Alex CV on Jun 26, 2016

You & This Route  |  Other Opinions (2)
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Description 

A good climb but not as continuous as the classic To Be or Not to Be. Climb the face up and head a bit left to a rest before the bouldery crux along the thin seam in the shallow open book.

Location 

Start on the face 15' to the left of To Be or Not to Be

Protection 

This can be led but it requires a bit of improvised trickery.

To set up a toprope, traverse left and a bit down from the To Be/Farewell bolt anchor and set up directionals with finger-sized cams.


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