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Jul 16, 2016
Just looking for wisdom esp with feet. I want to climb forever but 20yrs of not respecting my body is catching up.

What I have learned
Don't where approach shoes unless you need to. A big toe box shoe keeps your toes healthier. Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.
stoneforest
From Burlington, Vermont
Joined Mar 11, 2013
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Jul 16, 2016
stoneforest wrote:
Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.

You will need to see a doctor. The only things that really work require a prescription or surgery. The OTC stuff and home remedies are basically worthless.
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Jul 16, 2016
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Marc801 wrote:
You will need to see a doctor. The only things that really work require a prescription or surgery. The OTC stuff and home remedies are basically worthless.


And even then the Rx is only something like 50%-70% effective and can be hard on one's liver.
Allen Sanderson
From Oootah
Joined Jul 6, 2007
1,194 points
Jul 16, 2016
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My understanding with toe fungus is that once you have it you can't get rid of it, but you can manage the symptoms using meds. Could be wrong though. Finn the Human
From The Land of Ooo
Joined Jul 11, 2008
143 points
Jul 16, 2016
Finn the Human wrote:
My understanding with toe fungus is that once you have it you can't get rid of it, but you can manage the symptoms using meds. Could be wrong though.

Perhaps, but with non-trivial side effects.
What does work is permanent removal of the nail - including the portion that grows new nail.
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Jul 16, 2016
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stoneforest wrote:
A big toe box shoe keeps your toes healthier. Don't let toe nail fungus get out of control. How do I get rid of this.


Tight climbing shoes, ice climbing boots...anything that constantly damages your nail beds will make either getting rid of toe nail fungus or staying fungus free once you do get rid of it.

I did the oral medication route (prescription). Lamisil I think. Took it for a couple of months and it took 6 months or so before my toes cleared up (and they still look kinda gnarly).

A friend did the same and his toe fungus came back with a vengeance a year or so later. Not worth it to him to keep taking the medication as the potential side effects aren't so great.

I tried tea tree oil for a couple of years (yeah, every morning for a couple of years). Toes never smelled so sweet...but, didn't do anything for the fungus.

So, my little piggy's look better than they have in years, but, not perfect. I don't have any huge yellow nail grunginess like I used to, but, they still looked hammered. Too many years in tight shoes and stubbed toes.

There's promise in some of the newer topical treatments. Maybe one of those would work?
Brian in SLC
Joined Oct 6, 2003
13,072 points
Jul 18, 2016
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Ho Man....

Grown Women would scream and children would cry if I took off my shoes in the Gym..... But its almost all gone now, here is what I do.

I did the doctor thing Lamisil (sp?) and it got better then it came back...

Tea Tree oil and Tea Tree Soap, Trader Joes is where I get mine.... also get a stiff brush- the kind for cleaning really dirty hands....

Wash your feet every am using the soap the brush, scrub the bottom and the top of your toes and then treat with the oil.... as soon as you can after work, remove your shoes and socks and go barefoot or at least open toe....wash feet just like you did in the am. Put hand cream on your feet every nite to keep them soft, that helps the nails.

Use different shoes, I rotate 3 pair of work shoes.

Wash your socks every time.

It has been two years for me... none are yellow and four look perfectly normal...

keep it up and it gets better.

TMI .... I know.
Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
Joined Mar 1, 2008
363 points
Jul 18, 2016
The best way to deal with foot fungus is to make it as hard as possible for fungus to grow on your foot. What is the ideal environment for fungus to thrive? A warm, dark, moist place, like the inside of a shoe. Solution: wear open toed sandals (or better yet, no shoes at all) as much as possible. That means all time: at work, when hiking, at home, when driving, etc. If it's cold and your feet are uncomfortable, so is the fungus (your circulation will improve). If it's really cold, wear socks with sandals.

It won't hurt to get some OTC or prescription medication to get it under control, but wearing open toed sandals as much as possible is an excellent long term management strategy.
Derrick W
From Salt Lake City, UT
Joined Jun 3, 2012
115 points
Jul 18, 2016
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Just soak your feet in watered down bleach from time to time. Bleach is like the ultimate fungus killer. ViperScale
Joined Dec 22, 2013
201 points
Jul 18, 2016
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Derrick W wrote:
wear socks with sandals.


This is also very effective birth control.
Mark Roth
From Boulder
Joined Jan 4, 2008
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Jul 18, 2016
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I heard that painting your toenails pink helps, but only if worn without socks in sandals. Equally good birth control, covers the condition, and open to air. Hope to never have this fungus among us. Seriously though, wouldn't painting the nail starve it of a surface to gain oxygen from? Faulted Geologist
From Lawrence, KS
Joined Jan 7, 2015
161 points
Jul 19, 2016
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Mark Roth wrote:
This is also very effective birth control.


Genius
Brent Apgar
From Out of the Loop
Joined Oct 20, 2007
176 points
Jul 19, 2016
I lost my entire big toenail due to a marathon and ill fitting shoes once.

After the initial soreness went away, my climbing shoes fit so nice. Maybe the surgical option is the best.
highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion
From Colorado
Joined Oct 29, 2012
43 points
Jul 19, 2016
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I think my right pinkie may have got some fungus or something. About 6 months ago it started growing super thick and bent in weird ways. I kept hoping it would grow out, but no such luck. At least it's just the pinkie.

My feet are a mess anyway. plantar warts that no treatment (including several under a dermatologist's care) can cure. The weird pinkie toenail. Athlete's foot unless I use tinactin daily. And I get trenchfoot if I wear shoes for too many hours in a day (my feet get painful sores and the skin starts coming off).
Bill Shubert
From Lexington, MA
Joined Jul 20, 2012
60 points
Jul 19, 2016
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highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote:
I lost my entire big toenail due to a marathon and ill fitting shoes once. After the initial soreness went away, my climbing shoes fit so nice. Maybe the surgical option is the best.


I hit my big toe nail on the wall and lost it onetime climbing. Once it fell off a week later that was the best climbing I ever had until it grew back. I have been considering removing them all permanently ever since then.

Soak them in some water downed bleach for about 30secs every other day, probably the best fix you will find.
ViperScale
Joined Dec 22, 2013
201 points
Jul 19, 2016
I love this thread!!
All I can say as a female is ... I have invested in ballet flats as my go to dress shoes to hide the ugliness... And hope he doesn't have a foot fetish
Rosalieva
From southshore MA
Joined Jul 1, 2014
5 points
Jul 22, 2016
File the surface of the toenail so that it is thinner and more porous. Clean with a toothbrush and food grade Hydrogen Peroxide.

Prepare a poultice with this mixture:
Aloe Vera Gel
Colloidal silver (don't thin the mixture too much)
a few drops each of:
-Oregano Oil
-Bergamot Oil
-Tea Tree Oil
-Lavender Oil

Use a gauze pad and sports tape and wear the poultice for a day at a time.

In addition to the poultice, soak your toes in Ozone Water.

Also, alternate the Aloe Vera poultice with an Extra virgin Coconut oil poultice.

Cut way down on foods that feed fungus infections such as sugar, corn, wheat.

Drink 1-2 T of Organic Apple Cider vinegar in the morning in a glass of water.

Be consistent over a few weeks and you will see healthy nails growing in. The poultice works hundreds of times better than just applying product topically. Prepare the poultice so that it has a generous amount of the product-it will be a little messy.

amazon.com/A2Z-Ozone-Aqua-Purp...

amazon.com/LifeForce-Compact-B...
KevinCO
From Loveland, CO
Joined Mar 22, 2006
85 points
Jul 22, 2016
Vick's Vapo-Rub works pretty well, according to the internet and this tiny, uncontrolled study:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/212093...
Cat.
Joined Jun 8, 2014
13 points
Jul 22, 2016
KevinCO wrote:
Cut way down on foods that feed fungus infections such as sugar, corn, wheat.

Um, that's for yeast infections in women.
For toenail fungus? Total BS.
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Jul 24, 2016
I use a Dremml with a sand paper bit to grind down thick nails that a clipper can't clip. Make sure this is done outside. I recommend a face mask or respirator so not to breath in nasty toe nail dust. Ask the Dr. for Jublia, a topical. Try to stay barefoot. Jed Andersen
Joined Jul 13, 2016
25 points
Jul 24, 2016
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So far I haven't got the fungus (knock on wood), but I've completely lost my big toe nail twice. Both times, it was because I walked off a multipitch route in my climbing shoes. If you want to lose a nail or end a great day of climbing with misery, try that. C. Archibald
Joined Apr 15, 2012
781 points
Jul 24, 2016
you have to go to a doctor to deal with toe fungus because the medicine that's prescribed requires blood work to be done while you are taking it (it's very very hard on your liver). I was told it wouldn't go away but with the prescription and burning a pair of my shoes I haven't had it in years Rob D.
From Brooklyn, NY
Joined May 18, 2011
38 points
Jul 28, 2016
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I had toe fungus and tried to get rid of it with OTC liquid that you brush on. Didn't work. I got a script from my doc for a different liquid that you brush on daily. It took four months, but its all good now. Don't take the oral meds as they screw up the rest of your body. beytzim
Joined May 3, 2013
34 points
Jul 28, 2016
All my toes were removed in May of this year, and can tell you that I have zero fungus issues, of course, I got no toes, no more toe jam or nail clipping either.An extreme solution for you but 100% gauranteed effective. Greg Maschi
From Phoenix ,Az
Joined Oct 27, 2010
1 points
Jul 28, 2016
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To address your other query and not overwork the fungus, here are my thoughts. It takes an older body twice as long to repair itself as it use to. Then, while you are recuperating, you gain weight and it then takes time to deal with that issue. It seems getting in shape takes at least twice the effort and for 1/2 the gains that it does on a younger body, So avoid getting hurt at all costs. Sew up lines, never push through a run out if there is a possible ankle breaking edge below. Just back off with your tail between your legs but ready to climb the next day. Or at least think about the consequences more often. Roy Suggett
Joined Jul 20, 2009
6,244 points
Jul 28, 2016
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Roy Suggett wrote:
To address your other query and not overwork the fungus, here are my thoughts. It takes an older body twice as long to repair itself as it use to. Then, while you are recuperating, you gain weight and it then takes time to deal with that issue. It seems getting in shape takes at least twice the effort and for 1/2 the gains that it does on a younger body, So avoid getting hurt at all costs. Sew up lines, never push through a run out if there is a possible ankle breaking edge below. Just back off with your tail between your legs but ready to climb the next day. Or at least think about the consequences more often.



Sage advice,
If you follow it with a bit of luck, & cleaner living through better hygiene
So less fungus among -g-us ...& don't do anything to excess, except climb,
find the 'golden mean'
And climb forever
Michael Schneider
Joined Apr 24, 2014
500 points


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