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YDS: 5.13b French: 8a Ewbanks: 29 UIAA: IX+ ZA: 30 British: E7 6c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 25'
Original:  YDS: 5.13 French: 8a Ewbanks: 29 UIAA: X- ZA: 30 British: E7 6c [details]
FA: Chris Hill
Fixed Hardware: 4 Lead Bolts, 2 Anchor Bolts [details]
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Submitted By: Peter Beal on Oct 14, 2001

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    (Attention: Satire Ahead! Not a Useful Description! Use at Your Own Risk!)

    There was a time when you couldn't open a climbing magazine without seeing ads featuring some wannabe hardperson clinging to the sheer overhanging rock face that is the Web. Sure it's about 25 feet long and 100 yards from the parking lot and picnic tables, but something drew the early '90s sport climber crowd to this route like long-lost relatives to lottery winners. Now, the glory is gone, but the greasy slopers and crimps remain, polished not merely by overuse but by virtue of the slick quartzite they were hewn from, by nature fortunately and not Chris Alber. So, go to the top and throw down a TR and check out the vintage Mammut ring bolts, and after changing into your best pink lycra and matching pink/yellow harness, grit your teeth for the camera. Sponsorship is right around the corner!


    4 draws, helpful to have a couple of medium Friends for belay or directional at the start.

    Currently, one of the anchor bolts has pulled!

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    Rock Climbing Photo: The Web.
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    Sizing up this beast.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Seth crushing The Web.
    Seth crushing The Web.
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    BETA PHOTO: The Web.
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    Sticking the final toss at the top....
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    The Web.

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    By Richard M. Wright
    From: Lakewood, CO
    May 12, 2003

    Do things never get better, only worse? Or is it just this age crap? While a lot of hot lines have been developed around Boulder in the last decade, The Web is still a real test piece that can leave your ego plundered and your forearms abused, and pitching the pink lycra may not simplify things very much. On the other hand, The Web is hard to beat if you are just looking for a bruising work out with zero approach. Over the years, The Web may have gotten more difficult - it seems from my foggy memmory that some of the square cut edges between the first and second clip are missing, forcing all of the initial action on to the sloping, greasy side pulls. Getting utterly thrashed on this line reminds me of a truism that was batted around at CATS years ago: "if you want to climb hard, then you have to climb hard". What that always meant to me was that no amount of pulling at a softer grade adequately prepares you for how hard you have to pull to pull at the harder grade. Unfortunately, that seems to demand that some percentage of one's climbing is going to be spent working in the beginners mode. On the other hand, it's inspiring, and even daunting, to realize that a lot climbers in Boulder make this look easy. There must be a lot of folks out there paying dues for nothing more than the simple satisfaction of doing well something that is very difficult.
    By willem
    Apr 4, 2004

    Schnikes....more like rest before the first bolt, and after clipping the anchors.
    By Ken Cangi
    From: Eldorado Springs, CO
    Jul 16, 2005
    rating: 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c

    Peter, your satire wasn't lost on me, although the description is off, IMO. The Web is a bona fide Eldo classic, and it still sees its fair share of traffic. It has everything (great movement, steep, sustained angle, ease of access, and stellar conditions for photo shoots). Moreover, there are two warm-up routes within five feet of it. This was one of my early 5.13s, and it took me forever to get it, but I never got bored climbing the route.

    For the climbers out there who call it a boulder problem - two words: I'll watch.
    By Chris O'Connor
    From: boulder, co
    Jun 11, 2007

    Time goes on and things continue to change, those vintage Mammut bolts are finally gone, replaced with new equipment by a friendly Argentinian guy.
    By Peter Beal
    From: Boulder Colorado
    Nov 17, 2007

    Looking up this route again for my blog ( I read Ken's comment today. Perhaps mountainproject administrators can add an icon for whether a climb offers good conditions for photo shoots. That said, Ken, the description is satirical.

    By the way, in a recent Sportiva ad, the route is rated 13c. Is Sportiva trying to say that the new Solution makes 13a/b routes 13c? As an aging climber myself I would prefer shoes that make routes easier not harder. Sportiva posing another aging climber on the Web seems only to reinforce my description of this venerable classic.

    Did Rolo replace the bolts? Were they donated to the Neptune Climbing Museum?
    By Dan Levison
    From: Boulder, CO
    Nov 18, 2007
    rating: 5.13b/c 8a+ 29 X- 30 E7 6c

    Whomever replaced the bolts did an excellent job! The replacement bolts are located approximately 3 or 4 inches right of where the original Mammut ring bolts used to be. The patching job is quality in that you really have to look hard to determine where the old holes used to be. The new hardware appears to be Fixe 12mm SS wedge bolts w/ ASCA-branded camo Fixe hangers w/ Fixe double rings at the anchors. Great hardware although when it's time to replace the bolts again (which may not be that far off [5-10 years?] given the recent traffic on the route, the steep angle, and the volume of large falls at bolts 2 and 4), new holes will have to be drilled yet again (for the third time). Also, the wedge bolts are really prone to spinning hangers. Despite the aforementioned, the rebolting job is excellent overall and special thanks to the "friendly Argentinean guy" for a quality job.
    By CHill
    From: High Valley, Ut.
    May 4, 2008

    Chris Hill here-

    Usually I spell my name without the question mark at the end.

    I did the FA w/ Christian Griffith in November 1986. It was the 3rd 5.13 in Eldorado SP, at the time. This was before power drills, so we hand drilled the bolts on rappel. I'm actually impressed that the bolts lasted 21 years, and thankful that they were recently replaced.

    I'm glad that people still get out and have fun on that little pitch.
    By Mike Crandall
    From: Superior, CO
    Jun 3, 2010

    I see lots of comments about it being a great photo climb. So where's the photos!? If anyone has some great shots, please post them here! Thanks!
    By Ol Toby
    From: CA
    Nov 20, 2012
    rating: 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c

    Very fun mini-route. Complex and powerful movement.

    Missing anchor bolt replaced, thank you.

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