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The Thin Wall

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Ain't Nothing but a J-Tree Thing T 
Almost Vertical T 
Butterfingers Make Me Horny T 
Child's Play T 
Chocolate is Better Than Sex T 
Congratulations T 
Conservative Policies T 
Count on Your Fingers T 
Count Your Blessings TR 
Face of Tammy Faye, The T 
Hidden in Plain Sight T 
No Calculators Allowed T 
Peculiar Taste Buds T 
Square Root T 

The Thin Wall Rock Climbing 

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Location: 34.01437, -116.17276 View Map  Incorrect?
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Administrators: C Miller, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes, Kristine Hoffman (sitewide)
Submitted By: M. Morley on Jul 1, 2002


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The East Face of The Thin Wall is a top-roper's dream come true. There is something for everyone here - from 5.6 to 5.11a. There are a handful of bolts up top (Congratulations and Count On Your Fingers / No Calculators Allowed), and where there aren't bolts, gear is required. If toproping, a short static rope or some long webbing is especially helpful.

The downside of Thin Wall is that on any given day, there are about a million people here which creates a bit of a circus-like atmosphere. Thin Wall is popular with the Boy Scouts, church groups, and every other institutional group you could imagine.

The difficulty of the routes tends to generally increase as one moves left along the face.

Nearly all of the routes can be led safely, except for Child's Play (5.10d) and Congratulations (5.11a) - the two leftmost routes. Although it doesn't receive an "R" rating in Vogel's guide, I have personally stayed away from leading The Face of Tammy Faye (5.8), as pro looks sparse.

Descent: scramble to the north or south (4th class), or rap off fixed anchors for No Calculators Allowed

Getting There 

From Real Hidden Valley parking area, follow nature trail north to "T" intersection. Head left (NW) on trail. The Thin Wall is the prominent rock "fin" on your right.

Climbing Season

Weather station 10.5 miles from here

14 Total Climbing Routes

['4 Stars',0],['3 Stars',2],['2 Stars',10],['1 Star',2],['Bomb',0]

Classic Climbing Routes in The Thin Wall

Mountain Project's determination of the classic, most popular, highest rated climbing routes for The Thin Wall:
Count on Your Fingers   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Trad, 1 pitch, 50'   
No Calculators Allowed   5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     Trad, 1 pitch, 50'   
Child's Play   5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b R     Trad, 1 pitch, 60'   
Congratulations   5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b R     Trad, 1 pitch, 60'   
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Featured Route For The Thin Wall
Rock Climbing Photo: Dave Earle leading Conservative Policies.

Conservative Policies 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c  California : Joshua Tree National Park : ... : The Thin Wall
This route is shown clearly in the attached Photo. To reach it, approach the thin Wall's E. Side and orient according to the photo. This would best be described as the left-most route of the right half of the wall, just right of the large right-facing corner at the 1/2 way point. Climb a crack system upward just to the beginning of a bulge up top, then go up and right as necessary to stay in good rock and good holds.The route is traditionally rated (Vogel guide) as 5.8, but it seems that everyt...[more]   Browse More Classics in California

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Rock Climbing Photo: The Thin Wall from afar.
The Thin Wall from afar.
Rock Climbing Photo: The Thin Wall
The Thin Wall
Rock Climbing Photo: Climbers at the Thin Wall.
Climbers at the Thin Wall.
Rock Climbing Photo: Joshua tree thin wall
Joshua tree thin wall
Rock Climbing Photo: The Thin Wall-West Face. Photo by Blitzo.
The Thin Wall-West Face. Photo by Blitzo.
Rock Climbing Photo: View from the top of the Thin wall of a rather lar...
View from the top of the Thin wall of a rather lar...
Rock Climbing Photo: Playing on the thin wall, dodging the lightning bo...
Playing on the thin wall, dodging the lightning bo...
Rock Climbing Photo: A typical weekend at Thin Wall.
A typical weekend at Thin Wall.
Rock Climbing Photo: The Thin Wall
BETA PHOTO: The Thin Wall

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By Tony B
From: Around Boulder, CO
Jul 2, 2002
Maybe I was more dialed in at this crag then I was at others, but in my honest opinion, the ratings at this crag were more merciful. I found 5.10+/11- to be at the limit of my ability at most J-tree crags, but not so hard here.
By David Evans
Jan 24, 2003
The West face has a route called "Sandbag" that is a very technical lead. One should be a solid 10c leader. Remember to double back your harness. The one time I forgot to was when I led this route. Thank God I didn't fall!
By Steve Powell
Apr 8, 2003
I agree with Tony. I thought that the route ratings were more in line with other crags in the country. in other words, I thought these routes were overrated for Josh.
By Josh Beck
Apr 8, 2003
Agreed, the ratings on the Thin Wall feel quite soft to me.
By Locker
From: Yucca Valley, CA
Jul 15, 2003
On the thin wall the "Crux" is mostly up top. So unless you go up and over don't be so sure you've totally done the route.
By The Gray Tradster
Jul 18, 2003
re: crux at top. That's so typical of Josh. the crack gets wide at the top and a little groveling is involved. It's not just the Thin Wall. Done many a route here and cruse'd the crux only to feel like a beached fish at the top.
By Tyler Logan
From: Mammoth Lakes, CA
Jul 31, 2003
Is this officially the most popular formation in Joshua Tree? (based on average # of visitors a day compared to # of climbs)
By Randy
Aug 1, 2003
Don't confuse the terms "most popular" with "most crowded." There are plenty people who avoid the area like the plague.
By Fat Dad
From: Los Angeles, CA
Jan 5, 2009
Just a comment on how the area has changed over the past few years. This area used to be a ghost town since it was primarily a top roping crag and I guess must have lacked a certain cache. I mean you could have shot a cannon at its base and only graze a few plants. Gladly, it's nice to see that its popularity hasn't resulted in a proliferation of bolts.
By Adam Stackhouse
Feb 18, 2012
Lynn Hill climbing the Thin Wall

By MoeSARcase
From: Cashmere WA
Mar 18, 2013
So I've made many pilgrimages to the climbing Mecca of JTree. Yes I'm a guide book snob. So most of the references to this area talk about the hordes of people. There are no starred routes in the most popular guide to the area. Don't let that keep you away. There are many moderate lines from 5.6 to 5.10. This wall is in the shade most of the day, yet 20 ft. From the base you and your friends basque in the sun and watch the show. We had for lines set up for TR and had fabulous day on half a dozen routes.
By tomallen112190
From: yucca valley, ca
May 10, 2016
To whom it may concern: I took some friends to thin wall the other day and noticed the bolted anchor up top is getting pretty loose. I don't feel qualified to adjust bolts or replace them, but I feel it's worth mentioning to anybody who can fix it.

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