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The Point 

YDS: 5.10+ French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 20 British: E3 5b

Type:  Trad, Sport, 1 pitch, 75'
Original:  YDS: 5.10+ French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 20 British: E3 5b [details]
FA: ccox, Bloom, Padilla, Gaun, Ellison
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Colin Cox on Aug 9, 2011

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Helen floats up the Point.


Climb a little crux out the alcove on good pro to the featured arete with four bolts.


This climb is just right of Watermelon and Flame Out, and climbs out of the right side of the same alcove as Watermelon. Lower from chains at the top. This anchor can also be used after climbing Watermelon.


Two .5 camalots for before and after the bulge, two 0 TCU's(or equivalent)for the thin horizontal slot near the lip of the bulge, some runners, and some quickdraws for the arete.

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By JJ Schlick
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 3, 2015

After doing this pitch I am left wondering what is the point of this route? Chossy climbing with dubious gear leads to dirt choked blocks, lichen covered crimps, and bush wrangling to get to the first bolt on the arête. One star is pretty generous.
By Colin Cox
Jul 4, 2015

The point is getting to TR Watermelon, which is also dubious. The gear is small through the lower crux but you have bomber gear just below to keep you from grounding. Typical West Elden. The dirt and lichen just need to be brushed off again through that section. The bush commands that you climb the arete instead of the bush choked crack, but maybe it could be trimmed back a bit. Getting down easily is also the point. I hoped The Point and Watermelon would clean up with the anchor being up there to lure more hands and feet to do the cleaning. Doesn't seem to be working.
By JJ Schlick
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 4, 2015

I don't know, you had better go lead it again.... Maybe adding three bolts at the bottom would help. I don't usually comment on routes, but this left such bad taste in mouth, I had to get it out. Can't win em all.
By Colin Cox
Jul 5, 2015

I guess this is what happens when I put up a route while walking on eggshells. I certainly wouldn't have done it that way anywhere else on Elden. I will reconsider.
By JJ Schlick
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jul 5, 2015

With some love and cleaning, I could see it being a worthy sport climb. It's just so dirty like the rest of Elden. That place could used a crag day of trail maintenance, route scrubbing, and anchor placement.

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