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The Perfect Lie Back 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 60'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Bill Griffin
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Submitted By: Rick D on Apr 3, 2009

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Matt's a pretty laid back guy


If you walked up the sandy approach trail, this route will be just on your right. The first half is lie backing up a slab. The crack turns verticle at half way point, this is were the crux is.


This is to the east of the alcove area's and to the west of the sun wall


Gear to 2". Chains at the top.

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By Aerili
From: Los Alamos, NM
Apr 26, 2009
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

I found the crux to be the start.

Takes mainly #.4-2 Camalots and I used a couple large nuts.
By slk
From: Reno, NV
Jan 26, 2011
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

My first lead and one sweet line. I think the crux is at the bottom but depending on your height it could be where the line goes vertical. Being 6 foot the vertical section was not that tough. Also, some really nice nut placements at the rests.
By Ron Anderson
Jun 18, 2011

First Ascent of this CLASSIC was Bill Griffin, from Gardnerville in the ealry eighties!
Dec 12, 2011

Not quite perfect IMHO.

Needs to be longer! :D
By Jeff Schroeder
From: Minneapolis, MN
Feb 18, 2013

Great route. Quite an approach. Don't forget that since the route is mainly lieback, it can be tricky to inspect your placements. There is a great rest in the middle of route. It is a great opportunity to set a couple bomber placements before finishing the route.
By Connor Newman
From: Reno, NV
May 6, 2013

I agree with the comments above that the crux is at the start, mainly because of the relative lack of feet and not being able to look at your gear. The moves up top are pretty easy, and you have a rest and bomber gear to do them unlike the laybacking at the start.
By Tele Liz
From: Corvallis, OR
Jun 18, 2014

Agree that the crux is off the ground (no feet and tough to look for placement). Too many good feet when the climb turns vertical. I think it might be the only climb in Woodfords to truly have gotten "traffic." The bottom section is turning glossy where you put your feet~ good rubber helps!
By Laine Christman
From: Reno, NV
Jun 19, 2014

I've seen 5.10+ leaders get pumped out placing too much pro down low. The good locks are there and you can spot your first placement from the ground. Don't over think it and relax. You've got this.
By Rude Boy
From: San Francisco, CA
Oct 30, 2015

Yup, crux is the first 25 feet. If you got the huevos just run it out and cruz right up to a nice ledge rest stop to plug in pro. After that the route is cake.
By grabski
From: N California
Oct 24, 2016
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

If only it was longer. Anywhere else and there would be a line of people waiting for it.

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