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The Flamboyant Arrow 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 140'
Original:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
FA: Vernon Steifel & Bob Passerini, 12 / 2003
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Vernon Stiefel on Dec 14, 2003

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Mike pulling the small roof that leads to the nice...


Begin just right of "Little Big Horn" in a sandy wash at the base of the crag. Bouldery moves gain a left facing dihedral with an offwidth crescent shaped crack on the right. Awkward moves (5.9) lead to a small roof with a solid thin horn above the roof. Pull the roof (5.9) and continue in the left slanting finger / hand crack surrounded by vibrant orange rock. The crack becomes low angle near the top and ends on a ledge. Veer right for 15' to a larger ledge then back left to the rappel anchors. A little dirty down low but another great warmup.


A variety of cams from 0.5" to 5" and stoppers protect this relatively lengthy crack / face climb. The route ends on a ledge just right of the "Little Big Horn" rappel anchors. Two rope rappel to the ground.

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By M. Morley
From: Sacramento, CA
Mar 24, 2004

Good route! 1.5 stars. The bottom is a little loose, but will clean up nicely after a few more ascents. This is approx. 150' long.
By Todd Gordon
Jan 3, 2005

There's already a route called Flaming Arrow on Rockwork Rock...but oh well...
By Locker
From: Yucca Valley, CA
Jan 4, 2005

Out of curiousity, Todd mentions that there is already a route named Flaming Arrow. Who did the FA and what are the ethics involved in having a second go at an already existing name for a route? Also, Todd, how about some more info on the first Flaming Arrow?................(I know.......look it up in a guide. I'll be over to check your extensive collection...)
By Todd Gordon
Jan 5, 2005

To whom it may concern...I did not make this post about the Flamming Arrow... someone posted under my name...(Sounds like what they do one my website!)....I don't kow anything about 2 climbs with this same name....(And my route names are usually much more "colorful".)
By Vernon Stiefel
Jan 8, 2005

I didn't realize that "The Flaming Arrow" was an existing route on The Rockwork Rocks formation near Barker Dam when I used the same name for a FA at Indian Country last year. Randy, please change the name to "The Flamboyant Arrow" for your next guidebook edition. Mike, please do the same on the website.

I am hopeful that the local J-Tree climbing community will overlook my egregious error and that Judge Locker will no longer have to spend precious seconds pondering the ethics of using a name for a FA that has already been used for a different route in the same climbing area.

By Randy
Jan 8, 2005

There is no problem with having mor than one route with the same name. I think there are several examples of this already having occured at Josh. One example is "Oh God!" which is either a 10c on Indian Head or a 5.2 in the Pope's Hat area. [And there is "Oh God, Its My Boss" as well...]

Personally, lets have more routes with exact same name. It makes things more interesting.
By Locker
From: Yucca Valley, CA
Jan 8, 2005

Vern.......The verdict is in and Judge Locker says it is AOK!
By Murf
May 30, 2005
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Initial moves are pretty dirty, and there are a few other sections of crummy rock. Good over, but not the best the cliff has to offer.

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