Friends over things, outside over inside. Will you go out with us? #OptOutside — Join Us Outside
Sign Up  |   Log In:Login with Facebook
REI Community
Atlantis Area
Routes Sorted
L to R R to L Alpha
Atlantis T 
Brimstone T 
Burning Down The House T 
Cold Day in Hell T 
Crosswalk T 
Hotter Than Hell T 
Indian Summer T 
Inferno T 
Jacobs Ladder T 
Lost Souls T 
New Wave Traverse (L to R Girdle of Whitehorse Ledge), The T 
Surreal T 
Tranquility  T 
Underground T 
Unforgettable Fire T 
Workshop Orgy (variation of Atlantis) T 


YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b PG13

Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, Grade II
Original:  YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b PG13 [details]
FA: Doug Madara, Paul Ross, June 30 1978
Page Views: 85
Submitted By: Zak Munro on Jun 18, 2016

You & This Route  |  Other Opinions (1)
Your todo list:
Your stars:
Your rating: -none- [change]
Your ticklist: [add new tick]
Your opinion of this PAGE:    [0 people like this page.]


This climb is broken up into an upper and lower section. (Lower Section 160' 10c) P1. Start at the base of HTH heading up to the first bolt then breaking left around the large block to a left facing corner to a ledge with a tree. P2. From the ledge break back out right following up the black streaked slightly dirty face shooting for a flake(this section can be a bit heady). Once you've cleared your head clip a rusty 1/4 inch bolt, and commit to a insecure mantle on slopers and crimps, then continue up to the big ledge. (Upper Section 110' 10b) Head up to a left facing corner then traverse right on a ledge. Finish by clipping up an old bolt ladder.


Left of Hotter Than Hell


Single rack to 3''

Comments on Surreal Add Comment
Show which comments
By john strand
From: southern colo
Jun 20, 2016

UMMMMM..... HTH wasn't there for the f/a, so you didn't clip the bolt. Surreal started left of HTH and then kinda straight up past horizontals. The top bolt had broken off sometime after the f/a ..i know because we replaced it for the f/a of Unforgettable Fire in 1987.
By Zak Munro
From: VT,CO, Bar Harbor ME
Jun 20, 2016

Sorry John, I was just working off the information in the most recent N Conway guide book and my own experience from being on the route. Thanks for the route correction though, i'll change it!
By john strand
From: southern colo
Jun 21, 2016

Ya..Jerry sometimes combined routes in the new book....I'm not a big fan of doing that.

The Definitive
Climbing Resource

Inspiration & Motivation
to Fuel Your Run

Next Generation Mountain
Bike Trail Maps

Backcountry, Sidecountry
& Secret Stashes

Better Data. Better Tools.
Better Hikes!