Supplements for tendon health/strength
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Anyone ever have any luck using a supplement to increase finger tendon strength and rejuvination? |
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Supplements really are not going to be very helpful for increasing tendon strength or recovery time. You would do best to stay in a positive essential amino acid balance and to train properly--which also includes enough rest time, a somewhat individual requirement since each person's connective tissues handles load and recovery differently. |
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And by positive essential amino acid balance you are referring to Omega 3 vs Omega 6? |
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SCherry wrote:And by positive essential amino acid balance you are referring to Omega 3 vs Omega 6?Omegas are fats, not amino acids. Amino acids are the components of proteins. Essential aminos are the ones required to build muscle and connective tissues. They are found in animal products and eggs, or you can eat certain combinations of plant products to get each end of the chain and thus get a complete protein. I once took some supplements that were a source of collagen and were supposed to promote tendon and ligament health, but I honestly could not tell if it worked or not so I discontinued it. Another thing you could try is making your own bone broth. |
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Aside from all the usual reasons for why it's very improbable to find and very difficult to create a new chemical which has positive effects on the human body ... |
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Sure - eye of newt, potion of quack, and a healthy dose of gullibility. |
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as long as it doesn't include puppy dog tails ..... i'm in! |
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T. Stark wrote: Performance NutritionPotion of quack, right on cue. |
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slim wrote:all kidding aside, i just try to ice my fingers for about 15 to 20 minutes at night a few times a week. aerili - any idea of whether this is a good thing or not?I don't think it will hurt you (unless you frostbite yourself some day!) but I am not sure it actually has any proven benefits. However, I do know runners vouch anecdotally for ice-downs post-running. |
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i mostly do it to try to control the inflamation and keep my fingers from getting too sore. i haven't kept records on it though, so i don't have a good grasp of whether i feel that it is helping or not. |
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There are certain anti biotics that will weaken tendons if taken for a period of time. I experienced this when I tore my achilles doing something I've done a million times in my life. The Doctor that repaired the achilles told me that sometimes it just happens. Really? It's not like I'm an overweight couch potato. |
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GLUCOSAMINE!!! .........large bottles at Costco. Great stuff. Just be sure you're well hydrated or it isn't as effective. |
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Luke Skyrocker wrote:Collagen, if the right brand and form, taken properly, and with the right cofactors will work miracles.More quackery. Collagen is a protein. Prior to any absorption of an oral dosage, it would have been broken down into constituent amino acids. In other words, it gives you nothing that a complete protein isn't already giving you (except for the hole in your wallet from paying 1000x the cost for the equivalent amount of protein). Further along the same theme...glucosamine/chondrotin doesn't have solid support from the research, despite years of media claims to the contrary. A full discussion is well beyond the scope of time I'm willing to take here, but suffice it to say: Do your own research, read the actual scientific studies, and you will likely be surprised. IMO, the best thing you can do is eat a healthy diet and seek to improve the blood flow to those tissues. Myriad ways to do that. |
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I've taken the Costco big bottle glucosamine/msm type stuff (I forget exactly what's in it, and I don't have it in front of me) for minor joint issues. |
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Luke Skyrocker wrote: I don't have to debate, because it has worked miracles for myself and the people I know who have tried it. If someone has a condition or injury that calls for it and they are not willing to try it because it doesn't have a prescription behind it, their loss.Quoted for posterity and general hilarity. It's got nothing to do with prescription or over the counter, and everything to do with basic science and efficacy. No, you don't have to debate, because frankly there is nothing to debate. You are arguing woo woo anecdotal BS with no studies or trials to cite, no control groups, no comparison basis. I am providing the scientific/medical consensus. You have no way to know that your anecdotal accounts wouldn't have been exactly the same without taking anything at all. That is one of the purposes of trials with control/placebo groups. Expensive urine is all the rage these days, and I'm sure the supplements industry thanks you for helping to catapult the propaganda. |
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Will S wrote: Quoted for posterity and general hilarity. It's got nothing to do with prescription or over the counter, and everything to do with basic science and efficacy. No, you don't have to debate, because frankly there is nothing to debate. You are arguing woo woo anecdotal BS with no studies or trials to cite, no control groups, no comparison basis. I am providing the scientific/medical consensus. You have no way to know that your anecdotal accounts wouldn't have been exactly the same without taking anything at all. That is one of the purposes of trials with control/placebo groups. Expensive urine is all the rage these days, and I'm sure the supplements industry thanks you for helping to catapult the propaganda.No pharmaceutical companies being in bed with the FDA and visa versa are all the rage these days. Fat cat's approving drugs that clearly cause harm to people in clinical studies because 51% of those involved showed some positive result why the the other 49% suffer miserable side effects is all the rage these days. Why profits and fat cats with big heads and giant egos. Turning huge profits and having god complexes is also all the rage. Taking care of ones own at the expense of countless others is all the rage these days "survival of the fittest" profits. Not being able to see the forest though the trees because you head is so swollen is all the rage these days. Maybe what you suggest is scientifically very true i do not know and i am more than happy to admit so. What i do know is your giant open mind is about as one sided as my clear intolerance of people as closed minded as your self. |
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APBT1976 wrote: No pharmaceutical companies being in bed with the FDA and visa versa are all the rage these days. Fat cat's approving drugs that clearly cause harm to people in clinical studies because 51% of those involved showed some positive result why the the other 49% suffer miserable side effects is all the rage these days. Why profits and fat cats with big heads and giant egos. Turning huge profits and having god complexes is also all the rage. Taking care of ones own at the expense of countless others is all the rage these days "survival of the fittest" profits. Not being able to see the forest though the trees because you head is so swollen is all the rage these days. Maybe what you suggest is scientifically very true i do not know and i am more than happy to admit so. What i do know is your giant open mind is about as one sided as my clear intolerance of people as closed minded as your self.You should have left it at this. |
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Nutriex |
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Nate Reno - I've actually experienced the same thing in regards to hangboard/campus board workouts. They really help pulley tendon injuries once your finger is well enough to start climbing again. |
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Gummi Bears....lots and lots of gummi bears! |
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Tendon strength is improved over time not quickly. So eat a healthy balanced diet, train correctly for your goals, get proper rest/recovery, and prevent injury. If that doesn't work go to your nearest pharmacy and get a tube of vagisil for your sore p%#&@y! |