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Straight and Narrow 

YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 50'
Original:  YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: John Garson, Jeb Schenck, 1971
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Submitted By: Stephen Marsh on Aug 1, 2005

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In the middle of LRM, look for an easy to identify dihedral (Straight & Narrow). Master of Sport is a left to right-angling crack to the left which joins S&N halfway up. This is a really good route, and NOT offwidth climbing.

Hand jamming, liebacking, and possibly [a little] wide technique will get you to the top. Starting in the large, left-facing corner ascend a double crack system which turns into a triple crack system. Gain a stance on a small platform. Leaving this to get to the bomber hand jams above is the crux. Belay at a large chockstone with slings around it. Check condition of slings before trusting!

There is a 2nd pitch option which continues up the wide crack to the top. This is the 3rd pitch of Drain Pipe, rated 5.4. Scramble down the backside.


Small to medium cams, you don't need offwidth gear, may want extra webbing/slings in case rappel slings are bad

Photos of Straight and Narrow Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: View a few yards west of S & N.
View a few yards west of S & N.
Rock Climbing Photo: At the top.
At the top.
Rock Climbing Photo: Wow!  I've been wondering what this route was sinc...
Wow! I've been wondering what this route was sinc...
Rock Climbing Photo: Enjoying the interesting moves on the start of Str...
Enjoying the interesting moves on the start of Str...

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By nolteboy
From: Fort Collins, CO
Oct 24, 2005

Maybe it was just the end of a long day, but this felt tough for the 5.8+ grade, even here at the 'Voo. A great route that needs a couple of bolts to descend from, instead of the rat's nest of slings currently in place.
By Jeff G.
From: Fort Collins
Jun 29, 2007
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

There are new bolts with rings at the top of this route. They are shared with the route "Master of Sport" and easy to spot from the base. A single 50 meter line will get you back down.
By Petsfed
From: Laramie, WY
Aug 10, 2008
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

With those new bolts up there, it adds a very enjoyable 5.7-5.8 finish to this route. Rack from tips to fists, with doubles in tight hands to big hands (I carried doubles from 0.75 to 3 Camalots), and some nuts if you don't like trusting small gear. It's about 60 feet from base to bolts (the middle mark of my 70m was just hitting my belayer's device when I reached the ground).
By Scott Matz
From: Loveland, CO
Sep 8, 2009

Great 5.8+, don't miss the crack in the back (right side) on the start next time.
By Christina kalb
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 30, 2013
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

I agree with Nolteboy that this felt tough for the grade (harder than some other Vedauwoo 5.8s that I've done). I used 2 #1 cams, 1 #2, #3, #0.5, and a couple of nuts and hexes. The slings are basically gone from the chockstone now, but you can rap from the bolts (60 meter makes it with plenty of extra rope).
By Katie Foster
From: Laramie, Wy
Jul 14, 2015
rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

Very sustained, there are no easy moves on this climb, so relative to other climbs at the Voo which have the same rating but only one tricky move (Fat Antelope), it's very stiff.
By Jeb Schenck
Apr 19, 2017

Let me give you some perspective. When John and I put this up 46 years ago, it was just at the beginning of a push to free all the aid routes. We didn't want to over-rate things. To us, back then it was a solid 8, not a 9 at all. Things that seemed to be a 9 were like Pooh Corner (just barely) and Fantasia at 9+. The Friday Folly (original name of the Water Streak) on Walt's Wall was considered a thin 9, maybe 9+. We weren't trying to sandbag--just a little conservative about rating too high. Have fun! Jeb
By Mat D.
From: Laramie, WY
Aug 14, 2017

Great route! I didn't actually think this was a sandbag at 5.8+ and thought maybe just 5.8 was about right, and I'm not a particularly strong or bold climber.

The route eats gear wherever you might want it (I would add that a single #4 Camalot is nice to have), and I thought the route was easier than Zipper (5.8+) and the hand jam section of Strawberry Jam (5.8). On top of that, the route has 4 really good rests that I can think of, 3 of which are no-hands rests. You don't actually need any offwidth technique to complete this climb, but I did use a few heel-toes anyway to appease the wide crack gods.

So don't be scared off, go climb this thing!

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