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YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad
Original:  YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Wes Allen on Mar 1, 2002

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Nice and very short thin hands crack. Good intro to thin hands jamming. Would make a great warm up route.


(3) #1 Camalots

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Rock Climbing Photo: Meredith Knauf on her first trad lead.
Meredith Knauf on her first trad lead.

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By Aaron Shupp
Apr 16, 2002

The easiest way to climb this seems to be to jam your left foot while using your right foot to smear.
By Anonymous Coward
Apr 28, 2003

A short but very enjoyable route and, as mentioned, a decent warmup for the desert...which can be difficult to find. A nice gentle intro to the bad it does not go on for another 100 feet.

By Petsfed
From: Laramie, WY
Mar 16, 2012

Aptly named. Nearly impossible to grade due to its length. Takes 2 #1 camalots and 1 #2 camalots, or 1 #1 camalot and 2 #2 camalots. Certainly no harder than 5.9
By Brian Alexander
Apr 21, 2012
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Short but nice. Great warm up.
By Jan Tarculas
From: Riverside, Ca
Oct 15, 2013
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

would be a lot more fun if it was longer
By Derek Field
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Sep 26, 2016
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

This is a perfect first trad lead. Bring two #1's and also a #2 for the top. I fail to understand how a route so straightforward and no-nonsense could possibly have a plus (+) attached to the grade. This is standard 5.9 crack climbing, and if anything it should have a minus (-) due to its brevity. I'd say Short & Sweet instead of stupid, but to each their own.

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