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YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 120'
Original:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: Matt Clark, Susan Bonfiglio
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Submitted By: Furthermore on May 28, 2013

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Climb a crack on the southwest side of the dome. Chickenheads and other features lead to a wide crack with a slight overhang. Pulling through the crack is dirty and the crux. Once through the dirty crack, climb past a tree to a hand crack (second easier crux) and belay on gear. A large, detached boulder at the top provides a good anchor.

Descend by scrambling down the north side of the dome.


Larger cams.

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By Furthermore
May 28, 2013

According to the guide, it shows the route heading right from the wider crack and back in the main crack at the tree. Climbing directly in the wide crack felt a bit stiff for 5.7. Dirty holds with lichen feet seemed to up the ante.
By Hiro Kurotsuchi
From: Colorado
Jul 12, 2013

Wow, this is a loser of a route. Got on it because we were having trouble finding the long routes and then weather was coming in. It's easy climbing, but I felt like I was soloing 20' up. Chickenheads and sparse places to place gear (sometimes marginal placements).

If I were on it again, I would take my tricams again and three 0.5 (purple). If you have a set of C3s, you could also take them up.

For the rating, I agree that climbing that dirty, wide crack is a little stiff for 5.7, and I found it hard to protect - perhaps that's when I wanted the extra 0.5.
By Hendo Henderson
From: Denver, CO
Sep 21, 2013
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

Agreed. The guidebook says go right at the wide crack. Problem is, there is no protection right. So I went up the wide crack instead. Which is indeed a little more stiff than 5.7. The hand-jams are dirty, and yes the pro at the wide crack is tricky (with all the dirt). The small crack above the wide crack is also another tough spot. It kind of fades away. Had to face climb to the right of that to get past that part.

I still thought it was a fun route though! I like the untouched dirty routes though. More of an adventure.
By aikibujin
From: Castle Rock, CO
Oct 14, 2014
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

For the first 20 feet or so of face climbing, the pro is there. It's not super obvious, you really have to look for them and fiddle with the right placement. I think I placed three pieces before getting to the first wide crack, so it's certainly not runout. I did wish I didn't leave my microcams on the ground thinking I wouldn't need them on a 5.7. I placed two nuts and a smallish cam on the face if I remembered correctly. Smaller cams like Aliens and Zeros would definitely help in that section.
By Matt Juth
From: Evergreen
May 29, 2015

Some nuts and small cams are nice for pro when not in the main crack. I agree with others that climbing the crack straight-on was in the 5.8 range, and I also felt a few moves up high were 8ish as well. It's a bit dirty in the crack, but I had a good time.
By First Track Jack
From: Colorado
Aug 28, 2015

I think we did the Already Been Climbed route today about 20 ft climber's left of Arrow pic for Seven Time Loser. Stemming start with good pro high up but hard to find, seems 5.8/5,8 + for crux move, and then nice climbing after steep crux. Completed in one pitch with 70 m rope. Walk off after 2/3 rd class ascent to summit and walk off to west back to gear.

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