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Seams to Me 

YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b

Type:  Trad
Original:  YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Dana Grossman, Rick VanHorn, 1980.
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Submitted By: Blitzo on Oct 28, 2006

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Even more gorgeous in person. Begs to be climbed!


Spectacular crack just left of the right-slanting crack of "The Nagual".

A 60m rope will just get you to a ledge above the ground, from which you can easily downclimb. Be careful.

The route can be TRd with some care - scramble up the gully a ways to the left (the second gully!).


Pro to 1.5".

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By 426
Mar 19, 2007

classy thin crack technique will help...
By Joe Dawson
Jul 7, 2009

This is a fun route.

I do not agree with the gear beta. You will want 2 #2s for the lower part of the route. If I recall, the route liked large finger sized cams, so triple up in that size if you want to stitch her up.
By Aerili
From: Los Alamos, NM
Jun 24, 2010

Super sustained and technical!
By tallmark515
From: San Francisco
Sep 28, 2010
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

Area classic! Great thin crack liebacking with great rests between 5.10 moves. Very good gear.
By Matt Twyman
From: Austin, TX
Jun 28, 2012

doubles or triples of everything from BD .1 to 1.
Particularly used several .1, .2, .3, .5, 1 plus a few smaller nuts.
Perfect stone the whole way. Mental crux never let up for me but gear placements are all bomber. Powerful 5.10 crux immediately after the pillar with 2 or 3 strenuous gear placements. Big rest, less powerful crux, BIG rest, fair mental crux to top.
My slightly chopped 70m just barely reached. Depending on how much stretch you get out of your 60m, it may not make it.
By J. Hickok
Aug 16, 2013
rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b

Tough climbing moves, but the real crux is placing gear in between moves. Definitely eases significantly up higher, as you can stay on your feet more.
By jplaut
Sep 16, 2013

Felt harder than 10c to me. And some small nuts definitely help protect thin sections. Really great climb.
By Joe Crawford
From: June Lake, California
Jul 22, 2014
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

Best 5.10 on the cliff for me. Single rack .3-3 plus double .75, 1 and 0-2 mastercams. So good, every day at ELC should include this route.
By Mike Mellenthin
From: San Francisco, CA
Sep 7, 2016

The locker was gone as of last weekend when I was there. I didn't think the musseys here or on other routes at the crag seemed sketchy, but don't take my word for it.

I thought this route was superb.
By B-Slim
From: San Jose
Jul 31, 2017

True classic, nothing to add here, if you are a 10 climber then this is a real test route to your trad climbing skills. Probably the best 10 around here.

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