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coop Best
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Jan 2, 2013
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Glenwood Springs, CO
· Joined Jan 2005
· Points: 485
If you have these boots or other Scarpa Phantoms could you please post your street shoe size and your boot size. I am trying to get an idea on size/fit. Thanks
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Steve Williams
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Jan 2, 2013
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The state of confusion
· Joined Jul 2005
· Points: 235
I wear a 7.5 medium shoe. My Phantom Guides were 42 Eu, and fit perfectly. I also have a pair of Scarpa Cerro Torre's 42 Eu, and they fit the same--so I'm pretty sure Scarpa is solid across sizes. With that said, I wear a size 10 or 43 1/4 Acopa JB. Go figure. (I wear two pair of socks with the mountain boots--one very light and a second heavier wool sock--maybe that's where some of the differences with others come in). . .
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Ray Pinpillage
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Jan 2, 2013
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
coop wrote:If you have these boots or other Scarpa Phantoms could you please post your street shoe size and your boot size. I am trying to get an idea on size/fit. Thanks Here is what I wear: 10.5 5.10 shoes (street and rock) 43 Salewa 43.5 Scarpa P-Guide 43.5 Charmoz 44 Nepal Evo 44 Trango S The Scarpas are a little wide in the forefoot for me so I use insoles and boot boards to reduce the volume.
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B Gilmore
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Jan 2, 2013
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AZ
· Joined Nov 2005
· Points: 1,260
Pretty much always a 9.5 street shoe (10's in a few though) I wear 42 Phantom Guides I had Trango Primes in a 42.5 Oh yeah, the Phantom Guides RULE.
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csproul
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Jan 2, 2013
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Pittsboro...sort of, NC
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 330
Steve William and Beagle have a pretty big difference there! Both wear a 42 PG but one wears a 7.5 street shoe and the other wears a 9.5/10! This is why I rarely find it useful to ask what other wear in a "street shoe". So hard to fit/size boots without being able to try them on.
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Double J
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Jan 2, 2013
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Sandy, UT
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 3,952
US m's 9. Guide 41 6K 42 Love them! Just wish they were just a bit warmer! Was climbing in low single digits in the am warming to the upper teen's last week and they were a wee-bit cold.
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csproul
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Jan 2, 2013
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Pittsboro...sort of, NC
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 330
Bump cause I'm curious too...and also, do the Phantom Guides and the 6000's fit similarly?
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Jon H
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Jan 2, 2013
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PC, UT
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 118
Phantom Guides are my hands-down favorite boot I've ever climbed in (out of 8). My foot is a perfect 11.5 on a Brannock Scale and I wear my PG's in a 45 1/2 (or 11 2/3) - yeah, it's bizarre sizing.
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Chris Graham
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Jan 2, 2013
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Bartlett, NH
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 545
US Men's 11 Phantom Guide 45
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Dane
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Jan 3, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 562
US 11.5 or a 12 depending on the shoe. 12s in almost every narrow running shoe. 45 in the Phantom guide, ultra and 6000. They are snug and I use lwt socks. 45.5 will also work. 46 is too big. Same sizing for me in all the La Sportiva mtn boots as well.
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APBT1976
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Jan 3, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2011
· Points: 55
11.5 sneakers or anything else for that matter and 44 Phantom guide with a Smart wool PHD medium to light cushion sock. So far these are the best dam boots ever. Fit like glove and climb just as well and still cozy on the approach..
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coop Best
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Jan 3, 2013
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Glenwood Springs, CO
· Joined Jan 2005
· Points: 485
Thanks everyone, I wear a 12 in most street shoes so it sounds like a 46 or maybe a 46.5 should work great. If you use a sock liner, what brand do you recommend? I have gone away from them over the years, but would like to revisit them.
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ADKMan
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Jan 3, 2013
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Upstate New York
· Joined Jun 2012
· Points: 0
I think this exercise proves that you really need to try the boots on to know for sure whether they will fit properly or not. I wear a 10 / 10.5 in all of my street shoes and hiking boots. I fit perfectly into a 44 Trango S Evo but I needed a 44.5 in the Phantom Guide to get a proper fit. I have a pair of Baruntse's and a pair of Spatnik's in size 44 that are just a bit too small. I think I will try to "trade them in" for a pair of Phantom 6000's in size 45? 44? we'll see. Comparing all of the sizing from above it all doesn't add up, but whatever works is what's right.
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Dane
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Jan 3, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 562
My bet is a 46 will be too big. 46.5 even worse. I'd try a 45.5.
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APBT1976
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Jan 3, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2011
· Points: 55
I second what Dane said. I am a legit 11.5 and with a medium cushion sock i wear a 44 Phantom Guide. Anything bigger would be sloppy..
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Ray Pinpillage
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Jan 5, 2013
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
Ben B. wrote:Do the ankles break in on these boots? Little stiffer than I was wanting Mine haven't yet but I haven't done a tone of walking in them. I walked a few miles yesterday and they still feel the same.
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Erik Tasker
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Jan 5, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 30
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coop Best
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Jan 23, 2013
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Glenwood Springs, CO
· Joined Jan 2005
· Points: 485
If you use a sock liner, what brand do you recommend? I have gone away from them over the years, but would like to revisit them
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Ray Pinpillage
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Jan 23, 2013
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
No sock liners. I have a few brands and never wear them. The P-guides fit well without them.
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Kevin Craig
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Jan 23, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2002
· Points: 325
I use Wigwam Gobi liners that I get at REI. If not too late, I wear size 12 street shoes and 45.5 Phantom Guides. 45s "fit", but give me heel blisters on long approaches.
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