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Remains to be Seen 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 2 pitches, 220'
Original:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
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Submitted By: jtwalter on Nov 2, 2010

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P1 - Start on an overhang with big moves on big holds and climb up and trend right. Climb through 15 bolts of varnished holds to a 3 bolt anchor. 5.10a.

P2 - Continue up and right to a large ledge that tops out on the wall. 5.9, 11 bolts.

Anchors for Remains to be Seen are about 10 feet back from the face and the rope runs over the edge with potential for rope drag and getting it stuck. We actually rappelled from a set six foot of chains just to the right of this route.


P115 bolts, 2-rap-hanger-plus-one-chain anchors.
P211 bolts, ring anchors.


Remains to be seen is located on the left end of the wall, to the left of the crack climb Non-Technical Church Socks.

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By steven sadler
From: SLC, UT
Feb 14, 2011

didn't feel like a 10a at all. Maybe a 5.9 move or two at the beginning. watch out for your ropes coming down. we did a double rope rappel with 2 60 meter ropes but be careful, ours got stuck. two shorter rappels would be a lot better.
By boltclippinfool
Sep 15, 2012
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

First move off the ground could be 10a'ish? Harder for short folks. Rest of the climb is pretty cruzer, fun climbing on delicate varnish edges. Bring some long runners as the bolts kind of zig-zag a bit. The anchors for Remains to be seen are placed way back on the upper ledge and seemed like a recipe for a stuck rope. We rapped off some anchors I spotted up and climbers right. (further right than cosmic connection, not sure what route this is, it's not on MP or in the guide. Looks cool!). One rope to mid anchor then ground.
By darrell hodges
Oct 7, 2012

First pitch, pretty good. Second pitch, very good.
By darrell hodges
Mar 24, 2014

The first pitch wanders a bit. You will need about 8 slings to avoid heinous rope drag.
By SMH Climber
From: Midvale, UT
May 5, 2014

This was a really fun climb, I would recommend using a 70m rope. The rap to the ground was quite a stretch for 60m and you will not have enough rope if you tried to rap the route (you have to rap down and right).
By Garret Nuzzo-Jones
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Jan 19, 2015

The opener was cruiser for me (6'4") but very stout for my partner (5'7"). Seems to be height dependent.
By mountainhick
From: Black Hawk, CO
Jan 30, 2015

The climing is fun enough, especiialy the moves off the ground, but the routesetting/bolt placement and first pitch anchor in terms of rappel descent are terrible. I extended almost all of the clips, and reached back to remove several draws after clipping the next throughout the pitch, yet still had considerable rope drag. Bolts could have easily been placed in a logical line, and forget rapping from top of first pitch without extending the anchor over the edge.

As is, be sure to have someone follow you to clean. I climbed, and my wife decided not to so I had the glory of cleaning the pitch on rap. It is impossible to do so and avoid the rope getting woven between flakes, necessitating prussiking back to rap again in order to be able to pull the rope.

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