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P.T. Pillar 

YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 100'
Original:  YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Dave Hough and Geoff Smith, 5/78
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Submitted By: Chris Duca on Nov 10, 2007

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  • Description 

    P.T. (Positive Thinking) Pillar is about as awkward a climb as you're going to get on Poke-O. From the insecure jamsand smeary feet up the flaring left-facing corner, to the sub-optimal pro, to the overall thuggish nature of it, P.T. Pillar is, most assuredly, not for everyone.

    That being said, if you want to test your mental grit, intestinal fortitude, AND get a taste of what a healthy dose of Adirondack sandbagging feels like, then this is the route for you.

    Start the route by scampering up the blocky base of the massive left-facing corner of the pillar of rock that stands tall to the right of the Positive Thinking winter ice flow. Get into the corner and grovel, thrutch, and burn rubber on the steep and awkward corner, passing a roof crux at about mid-height.

    Finish the route on some sustained terrain that takes you to the top of the pillar and chain anchors.

    (Note: This route is also the "quickest" way to set up a TR on "Macho").

    Fun, eh?


    To the right of the Positive Thinking clearing/ice flow area is a massive pillar of rock. the route climbs the left side (left facing corner).


    A standard rack including a #4 Camalot, and doubles on some smaller units.

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    By Jon Clark
    From: Philadelphia, PA
    Feb 4, 2011
    rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

    This is worth doing once. Yes its awkward, but sometimes you run into this kind of stuff on longer routes. So it's good to have some experience on this kind of terrain.
    By Daniel Israel
    From: Montreal, Quebec
    Oct 21, 2013
    rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

    I hadn't remembered the description when I decided to do it. Yep, the description is pretty good!
    By Benjaminadk
    From: San Pedro, California
    Jun 8, 2014

    description is spot on. thuggish. makes a route like modern times seem easy for the grade.

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