Problems with camp hosts at 13 mile....
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So this is the third January I've been visiting the awesome climbing in Red Rocks and camping at 13 mile, but every year I see the camp hosts giving generally everyone a hard time about something. It's not that they are enforcing rules it is the way the go about it immediately becoming extremely hostile. I've never personally been yelled at for anything but finally this year they started giving my good friend a hard time because he had come in at 1am and slept in his van in the general parking lot. In the morning he drove over to our site and the second he stepped out of the vehicle this woman came over and totally flipped out! Saying she wanted money for last nights camp "right now!" Well, he was with us and it is up to 10 climbers in a site, so needless to say she was completely out of line. |
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I had the same problem in November. 13 miles has a supply and demand problem with no solution what so ever for overflow. |
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This is a problem that has been going on for years. I hear stories all the time about this. Making a formal complaint is well worth it. Perhaps a complaint could be signed by members who look at this website and others... |
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I have experienced this exact problem along with many others at the campground. I have even called Barb, I will leave the details out. If you would like to get ahold of Barb's supervisor you can call the visitor center at Red Rocks 702 515-5350. |
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Sad to hear this. I remember the first season that campground was open (5-7 years ago??), the climbing rangers set up a table in the morning with free coffee and snacks from Starbucks! It's been all downhill since then. Do climbing rangers still exist at Red Rocks? |
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I hate to try and be level headed about this, but... |
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I have no problem with them enforcing rules, she just doesn't have to be so damn rude. That is not how your treat other human beings. |
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Yes, the hosts at the 13 Mile can be a bit rude. However, I had some nice conversations with some as well. The rules aren't real terrible when you are following them. I, like all other climbers, like to try to bend them a little. I've found that many of the geezers (hosts) can be killed with kindness and a little down home midwest conversation. They are better to have on your side as they need no excuse to get fussy. Maybe I can stay at Brent's playa pad next time! |
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I've chatted with her...she means well, and is nice if you take the time to be nice in return. |
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Considering the skyrocketing room rates in Vegas, it's not surprising the 13-mile campground is jam-packed. I just looked at room rates for the Red Rocks Casio and they quote over $200 a night. Standard business traveler motels like La Quinta give similar rates. That campground is dirt cheap in comparison! |
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There is no way she could be a "nice lady" with the hostilties I witnessed. Besides no matter how much someone tries to screw her over she is the camp "host" and is obligated to treat everyone as at least a human being, yelling gets everyone nowhere. AND, in my incident she was WRONG. |
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George Bell wrote:Why have Vegas Hotel rates skyrocketed...An interesting article. |
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Gigette Miller wrote: An interesting article.Well, yeah. I read with interest: "There are also rampant rumors that MGM Mirage is planning to close and demolish Circus Circus (3,744 rooms) to pave the way for redevelopment." But then: "However, spokesman Alan Feldman said there have been no plans or discussions concerning Circus Circus." All I can think is that good, they are getting the imperial Palace, and I am neutral on the stardust thing, but what the heck? They can't get to circus circus? Maybe they are afraid of where it's inhabitants might go it they do implode the place? I dunno. I'd be happy if they just imploded the Buffet for a start. Yuck! What self-respecting adult wants to go to CC anyway, and who honestly believes that you should be taking kids to Vegas? Taking your kid to Vegas is about as sensible as taking a prostitute to Disneyworld. |
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Tony Bubb wrote: who honestly believes that you should be taking kids to Vegas?What do you mean? My grandparents took me to Circus Circus when I was a kid, and I turned out just... maybe you have a point, considering how I turned out. On a serious note, I don't have a problem with parents who show their kids Vegas. If I have kids, I won't have a problem taking them to Vegas. It is one of the wonders of the world. |
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Jason Himick wrote: I would consider it more of a human stain.Or a cancerous growth, at the rate it is growing. |
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Tony Bubb wrote:What self-respecting adult wants to go to CC anyway, and who honestly believes that you should be taking kids to Vegas?Unfortunately, weekend family vacations from L.A. to Vegas were common in people of poverty to the middle class when I was a kid. Anyway, here are some of my childhood flashbacks of Circus Circus.... I remember........
God, how I hate scary clowns. I repeat....... PLEASE IMPLODE! |
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Let's be honest... In defense of CC, there is no other place in Vegas that I have found where you can play 'Bop-The-Chickens.' Has anyone else experienced this awesomeness??? For a buck you get three rubber chickens that you try to catapult through the air into a bucket for prizes!! =) Absolutely a riot... |
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Lets be real here. The problem with the 13 mile kamp kommandants is that the last time they did the 'dandy do' Nixon was in office. |
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Gigette, What happened to your 'whack a mole' post? I loved it. |
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I figured that some peoples' computers may not like those moving images, and I didn't want it to interfere with anyone who may be having trouble when pulling up this topic. |
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Well I just got back from a week in RR. Stayed at the 13 mile campground and am disappointed to say nothing has changed except more gates and tank buster speed bumps. I don't think they have pumped out the "vaults" since last year and the brimming effluence was thickly wafting through the whole camp. You shouldn't have to experience 'splash back' before they siphon off the poo stew. Baby wipes are a 13 mile camp necessity. Ok I agree that $10 a night is very affordable and with my Golden Access pass it is only $5 a night which is really cheap but it would still be nice to have tolerable toilets and host-ier hosts. I know that I am spoiled rotten from too many years of renegade camping but, come on, do those folks really have to be so pissy about everything? They were on campers cases within 3 minutes of any perceived offence. Rules are rules you would say and I would agree but they did nothing about the through the night, everynight, roar of several RV generators. So who do the rules apply to? These unpleasant souls are more prison GUARDS than campground HOSTS. They circle endlessly in their golfcarts and trucks like carrion. They regularly approach tent campers with a "guilty til proven less guilty" attitude. They needlessly spread a pall of negativity around the campground. Regardless of how 'rowdy' climbers have been they do not need to be so dour and nasty. A little Andy Taylor of Mayberry approach would go a long way with the Barney Fifes and Gomer Piles in the campground. Those folks are after all simply accessing 'their' public lands. They do not need to be harassed by the intolerant employees of 'their' public moneys while in engaging in 'their' quest for Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. |