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Type:  Ice
Original: WI5 [details]
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Submitted By: Gantt524080 on Nov 3, 2009

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SUPER thick conditions - February 2009


Get a copy of Don Mellor's Blue Lines book for the best information.

The first pitch is steep but not quite vertical, belay from ledge on climbers right. Sometimes the first pitch does not reach the ground or is very thin, pay attention and be careful. The pitch two columns are the definite crux. The final pitch is less involved. Hike the ridge to climbers left to the descent gully or if it is late and no climbers are below rap the face using v-threads.


Located between Keeseville and Elizabethtown on Route 9. Routes are visible from HWY 87. If traveling the interstate, use the Willsboro exit to Route 9. Park on the side of the road at the Poke-O-Moonshine campground. The campground facilities are closed during the winter. Follow the trail on the right up through the woods towards the waterfall, one trail will continue straight up towards the waterfall area and the other trail will head right under the face. The climb is a few hundred yards down, there is a very large area at the bottom for safe belaying.


Standard screws and draws for the area.

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Rock Climbing Photo: P2 of Positive Thinking.
P2 of Positive Thinking.
Rock Climbing Photo: Climbers on PT.
Climbers on PT.
Rock Climbing Photo: SUPER thick conditions - February 2009
SUPER thick conditions - February 2009
Rock Climbing Photo: Base of first pitch
Base of first pitch
Rock Climbing Photo: Upper section 2/8/17
Upper section 2/8/17
Rock Climbing Photo: 2/8/17
Rock Climbing Photo: First pitch of PT.
First pitch of PT.
Rock Climbing Photo: Gorgeous
Rock Climbing Photo: Second pitch
Second pitch
Rock Climbing Photo: It's not quite this steep. But pretty damn steep..
It's not quite this steep. But pretty damn steep..
Rock Climbing Photo: Chris Knapp topping out the first pitch.
Chris Knapp topping out the first pitch.
Rock Climbing Photo: Brian Beiga on the first pitch. Thin
Brian Beiga on the first pitch. Thin
Rock Climbing Photo: Positive Thinking from the road, February 2014.
Positive Thinking from the road, February 2014.

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By Derek Doucet
Jul 19, 2010
rating: WI5-

An absolutely superb route! In typical mid season conditions, PT is usually on the easy end of grade 5, but when thin and boney, it can feel much harder!
By Colin R
From: Ottawa, ON
Jan 23, 2011
rating: WI5-

Ice is in thick on this route on the first pitch however the upper section is sketchy with an ill-formed column thats hollow for about 7-8 feet just before and somewhat during the technical crux but fortunately it thickens again after that. I did not lead but it felt sketchy enough on follow. We managed to almost do it 2 200 foot full pitches with a 60 foot pigmy slab pitch at the end that we simul-climbed
By Rui Ferreira
From: Longmont, CO
Feb 11, 2016
rating: WI5-

I tried to do this in two pitches as well trying to stretch out the second pitch to the top, but ended up short in unconsolidated snow. Luckily my wife does not weight much and I kept a tight belay to prevent any significant shock to my seat belay.

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