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Pizza Dick aka Mother Nature 

YDS: 5.12c French: 7b+ Ewbanks: 27 UIAA: IX- ZA: 27 British: E6 6b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch
Original:  YDS: 5.12c French: 7b+ Ewbanks: 27 UIAA: IX- ZA: 27 British: E6 6b [details]
FA: Fred Knapp, 1990
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Submitted By: Nate Weitzel on May 1, 2001

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This is a fantastic line with some great moves. The route is on the far right side of the cave and starts with the routes bouldery crux. This is followed with some killer moves on slopers and a couple of crimps. The feet are great and the moves are solid. Be ready for a good redpoint crux near the end as the pump factor will get you.

Some history on the naming of the route: Fred Knapp was working this route while Pete Zoller was putting in his line next to it. As Fred finished his route, he asked Pete Zoller what he thought it should be named. Pete said, name it anything but...Pizza Dick!! So, of course, that is the name that stuck. Anyway, that is the story. Three stars for a sweet climb that will challenge you but will leave you smiling when you get it.


Four bolts / two bolt anchor. Using a stick clip for the first bolt is highly recommended.

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Rock Climbing Photo: Wayne Crill likes Mother Nature.
Wayne Crill likes Mother Nature.
Rock Climbing Photo: Nearing the end of the crux.
Nearing the end of the crux.
Rock Climbing Photo: Fighting the pump at the top.
Fighting the pump at the top.

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By Anonymous Coward
May 29, 2001

Yes, this is an excellent _natural_ line, unlike the routes next to it, which were manufactured. Some folks rightly disagreed with the drilling/chiseling ethic. Since this new natural line was right next door to Pete's drilled routes, (as I heard it) Pete said to name it anything except, "Pete's a Dick". The first ascensionist complied, but still got in a good jab by naming his new route "Pizza Dick".
By Nate Weitzel
Aug 2, 2001

AC: Yes, that makes a bit more sense, and I think that I actually thought that might be the case when I heard the story, but thanks for the clarification.
By Fred Knapp
Jun 10, 2004

Yes, AC has the story right. I first called it "It's Not Nice To Fool Mother Nature"- derived from the old margarine commercials, if you're old enough to remember those. Pizza Dick was a name suggested by Christian Griffith as we drove back to boulder after he made the second ascent. It's the name that stuck.
By Anonymous Coward
Aug 28, 2004

Soft 12c.
By Fred Knapp
Nov 19, 2004

I agree with the original 12b rating I gave it.
By Anonymous Coward
Nov 21, 2004

By Jason Russell
Jun 8, 2006
rating: 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

Sweet line.... V5 start to a pumpy finish.
By Erik Durgin
Apr 17, 2007
rating: 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b

Really fun! A little soft for the grade. I thought "Moving Out" was harder, but nonetheless, it's way fun.
By doug rouse
From: Denver, CO.
Jul 22, 2008

I did this route on Sunday with friends, and all of us agreed that this was more difficult than 10-Digit Dialing..I read some of the above comments, and I have not been on any of the other routes mentioned above so I would defer to their judgment on the grade..if it is really all that important. The pinch move was baked quite nicely, so maybe we received full value 98 degrees in the sun...maybe we were just stupid for being there in the middle of the summer! I look forward to doing this one again, perhaps in October. Young Doug.
By Bart Paull
From: Boulder, CO
Feb 17, 2009
rating: 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

Definitely not soft for the grade if you are taller than 6'- the start is awkward as hell and has a very powerful foot move on it. For munchkins, it probably wouldn't be too bad. From the jugs, it's not too bad but a little pumpy ... actually making it a great warmup/second route of the day if you just pull through the thrutchy start.
By Jay Samuelson
From: Denver CO
Apr 24, 2009
rating: 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

Fun route. I think .12c is fair, if you can pull the moves it doesn't seem so bad because it's over quick, but i've watched many strong climbers not be able to link the crux. and of course there's still the rest of the climb to do after that.... regardless, fun climbing and a good in-betweener after the traditional warm ups at primo.
By Jonathan Siegrist
From: his truck
May 19, 2009

Holy Sh#t!! Fred Knapp is a baller. Need proof? Just check page 148 in the new Clear Creek guide. Here you will see him sandbagging his compadres after pissing on this climb like, 20 years ago! Pizza Dick is the hardest line at Primo area, no question!!
By Luke Childers
Aug 21, 2009
rating: 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

Cool line for the mostly drilled cave. The crux is the start. Fun line and although it is short it some how felt longer than it really was. Maybe I was in the Bermuda-Nomad-Triangle-Cave-Hole-Thing.
By dan scales
From: Denver, CO
Mar 16, 2011
rating: 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

Bottom crux is hard, but over quickly, and goes right into a bomb rest. The juice on the this thing really comes at the top. The pump coming out of the open handed ledge is unreal for as short as the climb is. 12b/c Good fun.
By Keith H. North
From: Englewood, CO
Apr 12, 2011
rating: 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b

One little boulder problem wonder.... Once you stick the jug at the lip near first draw, it's just fighting the pump... but that little boulder problem feels V6 or V7.... So, stiff 12c in my book.
By Hale
From: Boston
Aug 21, 2012

So fun! A right kneepad made the crux move feel easier.
By mlloyd
From: denver
Sep 23, 2013

Head point free soloing by Matt Lloyd

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