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YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, 350'
Original:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
FA: Layton Kor, Bob Culp, George Hurley and others, 1963
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Submitted By: Richard M. Wright on Jun 27, 2001

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Tyler Mintz near the end of P1 on Perversion.

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  • Description 

    Possibly one of the all time classic routes of its grade, Perversion fires up the central tower in three pitches of glorious climbing on some of the best rock in the Front Range. Below the central tower is a large block - climb up left on talus around the block and then over to the right side for a cozy belay that looks up a system of left facing dihedrals all the way to the top.

    P1. Start off on the right side of the block in a rough finger and hand crack. This is largely 5.7/5.8 until just before the next ledge where the line kicks up a bit of 5.9 on very good gear. Get to the ledge and move right 15 feet to the base of the dihedral. 75 feet, 5.9.

    P2. At the ledge (with a tree), scramble right to a point below the shallow dihedral. Fire up the left dihedral with 2 fabulous cracks for 25 feet. Traverse to the right on large blocks about 10 feet to another dihedral with a good crack. Cruise up this crack and then continue over broken rock with good pro to a nice belay ledge. There are two large bolts about 10 feet right of the crack. 150 feet, 5.8.

    P3. Continue up fabulous climbing in the corner with solid 5.8 move separated by many excellent rests. Head for the monstrous roof and swing out right on jug-o-rama holds with bomb-proof gear in the corner at 5.6. 120 feet, 5.8.

    Descent: downclimb to the left to the large notch (skip the first, smaller notch). Make an 80 foot rap to slings, then a 60 foot rap to a large tree, then a final (third) rap 60 feet right to the base of the climb.


    Bring a full rack and a 60 m rope.

    Photos of Perversion Slideshow Add Photo
    Rock Climbing Photo: Pitch 3 - Layback city!
    Pitch 3 - Layback city!
    Rock Climbing Photo: Austin leading P1 of Perversion, Mickey Mouse Wall...
    Austin leading P1 of Perversion, Mickey Mouse Wall...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Cindy making the hard move at the top of P1.
    Cindy making the hard move at the top of P1.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Nicholas Patterson liebacking up to the roof on pi...
    Nicholas Patterson liebacking up to the roof on pi...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Midway up pitch 1 of Perversion.
    Midway up pitch 1 of Perversion.
    Rock Climbing Photo: A climber on the 5.9 variation to the second pitch...
    A climber on the 5.9 variation to the second pitch...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Keen Butterworth on the first pitch of Perversion ...
    Keen Butterworth on the first pitch of Perversion ...
    Rock Climbing Photo: A nice photo of the upper two pitches. The route g...
    A nice photo of the upper two pitches. The route g...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ben heading up the 3rd (last) pitch.
    Ben heading up the 3rd (last) pitch.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ben at the crux of P1.
    Ben at the crux of P1.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ben placing an RP for the first move.
    Ben placing an RP for the first move.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Tony Bubb leads the third pitch of the Mickey Mous...
    Tony Bubb leads the third pitch of the Mickey Mous...
    Rock Climbing Photo: John Cioci Leads the first pitch of the Micky Mous...
    John Cioci Leads the first pitch of the Micky Mous...
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    Rock Climbing Photo: Gary Hann on the massive open book 3rd pitch of Pe...
    Gary Hann on the massive open book 3rd pitch of Pe...

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    By Matt Bauman
    Jun 27, 2001

    I've been wanting to do this for a while, but it's off limits until Aug.1 as far as I know.....anyone know for sure? bldr matt
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Jun 28, 2001

    Yes, this route has been under the Peregrine falcon restriction ever since an ascent of this route by some friends of mine. As "Ilana" and "Britt" (not their real names, these are randomly chosen pseudonyms) climbed the route one summer, they were continually pestered by a frantic falcon. They called the open space managers (or is it JeffCo managers) and reported the incident. The next week the cliff was closed. The thing that upsets me is that I don't think they check yearly to see if the nesting pair is still there, and do they really need to close the entire crag?
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Aug 28, 2001

    Richard, I'm surprised you didn't mention that getting off the ground is tricky on this climb, I remember it being a 5.9 move for sure. It's a weird step through an overhang. A short move and you can place a bomber stopper here.
    By Richard M. Wright
    From: Lakewood, CO
    Aug 29, 2001

    George's point was well taken, however, each time I enter a comment onto this entry it finds its way to a different climb....Thanks George, your point was well taken!!!
    By Anonymous Coward
    Oct 21, 2001

    You can descend in three single-rope rappels to the same block where Perversion starts. From there it's an easy scramble (north) to the ground. The top rap anchor as of 10/20/01 is about 10 pounds of junk webbing, a rope that belongs in Neptune's museum, and one decent loop of spectra cord. The second anchor is not much better (it got a new sling yesterday, 10/20/01). Take some big *leaver* sling material, a knife and a garbage bag if you're going soon.
    By Chris Dawson
    From: Denver, CO
    Jan 26, 2002

    If you're doing this route (as everyone should) and you make it through the last corner feeling strong, there is an exciting roof-exit option called Vulcans Don't Lie. It's so short it isn't really worthy of an entry all its own; however, it is worth doing if one is courageous enough. I had the luxury of doing it on TR and found poor gear and big rattling flakes. Starting at the base of the roof at the end of pitch three it climbs up, out and left. There is/was a small fixed cam here (I'm sure it's retrievable for all you gear hounds). The new Eldo book rates this .10b, I found it to be a little easier than that, but once again, I wasn't looking at a nasty fall onto the slab. Definitely, a fun alternative for an adventurous second.
    By Shane Zentner
    From: Colorado
    Jan 28, 2002

    I would have to agree with Richard's description of the route. This was my first trip to Mickey Mouse Wall and it was good. The route follows a system of dihedrals then cuts across a roof to an awesome view of the plains. Do bring extra gear for the belay anchor at the top. Three rappels took us back to the bottom. Cams, stoppers, hexes.
    By Aaron Shupp
    Jan 31, 2002

    Do not miss this route. It is one of the best climbs on the wall. The third pitch is absolutely beautiful! A long sling or two seems to help a lot on the second pitch if you decide to put a few pieces in.
    By Bryson Slothower
    Jun 11, 2002

    I think pitch 3 is probably the best pitch of 5.7 I have ever climbed.....
    By pete cogan
    Sep 15, 2002

    Rap info: from the rap route, added two new slings and one biner to the top rap (the slings go around a rock and over the edge); added a new sling to the next rap, the one with 3 rings on it; added a sling and biner to the belay tree at the top of the first pitch of perversion. And cut off lots of old stuff. As of September 14, 2002.
    By Ben Mottinger
    Founding Father
    Sep 29, 2002
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    Very good.

    The moves on P1 are stout and exciting, but no harder than a route like Green Spur. I thought the last pitch was more 5.8 than 5.7.
    By Anonymous Coward
    Aug 26, 2004

    Vulcans don't lie is a good finish that protects well. Overhung gym like movement in cool position.
    By Clint Locks
    From: Boulder
    Aug 15, 2006
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    Dave-I agree. I found P1 to be one of the more 'thoughtful' .9s I've been on. Good (albeit small) gear for the first crux, right off the ground. Also, Chris mentioned "Vulcans Don't Lie" for an exciting finish to an amazing climb. Excellent choice! The variation is short, very steep, and (I found) protects well until the last 3 moves, which are as juggy as they get! Careful of a huge block in the middle of the roof that is extremely enticing, but extremely loose. Hauling off that could end badly. Trend slightly left to positive holds after pulling through the roof.
    By Gary Schmidt
    From: Boulder, CO
    Sep 10, 2007

    An exciting route, perhaps even more so there is a good chance you might have the entire area to yourself! Found pitch one to be definitely on the tricky side of 5.9. Probably 3 distinct "cruxes" the hardest being just getting started, and then trying to finish. Didn't find the route finding on pitch two to be all that obvious. After heading up the initial very steep crack and a bit more (and sustained at the grade) traversed right and set up an intermediate belay to help avoid rope drag. From there, it continues to be surprising sustained (maybe even a bit of 5.8?) at the grade. Everybody raves about pitch three and that is certainly justified. Best pitch of the climb, with the somewhat tricky crux coming at the end of the crack before heading right. As of today, rap stations were in good state. Simply scramble north to the obvious notch and big tree.
    By Eric Goltz
    From: Boulder, CO
    Jul 4, 2008

    "Possibly one of the all time classic routes of its grade"--- this route has 1 move of 5.9 right off the ground, the rest is all 5.7 or less! Not that this is a bad route, but this quotation is a real stretch!
    By Bingman
    From: Fort Collins, CO
    Dec 14, 2008

    This route can be done in 2 pitches with a 60m. rope. Just be mindful of rope drag when linking p1 and part of p2 (place low, then high). There is a nice belay stance in the middle of p2 that will leave you with 2 feet of spare rope for the final pitch. Great line!
    By Gary Schmidt
    From: Boulder, CO
    May 26, 2009

    Hmm.. there is no way that there is only one 5.9 move and the rest 5.7. For example the end of the first pitch is quite tricky and certainly way harder than anything you find on the Bastille Crack. My partner that day can lead 5.10 and struggled there and even took a bit of a fall. It is also quite a sustained climb. Of course these are just my assessments. Just don't want some poor newer 5.7 climber coming along expecting a jaunt. Classic adventure climb though.
    By Gold Plated Rocket Pony
    From: Boulder, CO
    Aug 17, 2009

    Left behind a #1 blue Metolius Mastercam on P3 last Saturday. My partner couldn't get out. It'd be nice to get back (of course a nice 6 pack offered as reward).

    By Luke Clarke
    From: Golden
    Oct 15, 2009

    This is a highly recommended route. I can't think of another that is more committing as soon as you pick up your feet. I had a good RP and a 0 Metolius in but if you fall and the gear blows it's a heinous looking landing. The dispute on the rating on the rest of the pitch likely comes from the fact that it would be easy to avoid the second crux, which felt 9+ at least to me, by traversing to the right and then back left at the ledge. I suspect some climbers do that whether or not they intend to skip the higher crux.
    By DavidHH
    From: Parker, Colorado
    Jan 18, 2010
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    I would highly recommend bringing webbing and rings or quicklinks for fixing up the rap anchors. There was one piece of webbing at every station that inspired some confidence. Also, cleaning up all the old webbing will be less of an eyesore as this is a very beautiful area. I will do it next time I'm out there, but this won't be till after raptor nesting for this year.

    As a side note, wouldn't bolted anchors with colored hangers be less of an eye sore than the mass of webbing strung out thru those rap stations? Does ACE handle applications for Eldorado Mountain as well. Thanks for any info.
    By Chris Archer
    Jan 18, 2010
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    Thanks for the update, David. Mickey Mouse is owned and managed by Boulder Mountain Parks and is out of ACE's jurisdiction. Contact the Flatirons Climbing Council for information about replacing the anchors.
    By jacktheburro
    From: Denver
    Aug 25, 2010

    Great route. A buddy and I did this last week, and it was tons of fun. A hell of an approach, but it was worth it. Getting off the ground was tricky, and for my money, it was the most difficult part of the entire climb. You can protect it well, though: I got a solid micro nut right at the beginning, and a blue Alien in just a few feet above that. The rest of the route takes a ton of small stuff. Bring a bunch of TCUs and Aliens. And the last pitch ate up all my mid-sized cams.
    By Arch Richardson
    Sep 13, 2010
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

    Repeated this classic yesterday after (too) many years. First move is dicey above small gear and IMHO is PG13. Watch routing of rope over detached blocks on P2 traverse. Also, it would be easy to hang the rope or pull down rocks on the rap descent. In short, an excellent adventure.
    By 303scott
    Jan 26, 2015

    The route doesn't get sun until late morning this time of year (like 1030-11). First pitch is a stout warm-up with a tricky upper crux - could be top-rope protected if you bring a #4 Camalot. Highly recommend breaking up pitch 2 into two shorter pitches - our rope got hung up in the loose blocks, and I had to rap a fixed line to free it - would have been avoided if we moved the belay to the p-2 belay for Verging on Perversion.

    Finally, there are new bolted rap stations that a single 70m easily reaches. From the anchor in the notch between the middle and north towers, rap far climber's right to a 2-bolt rap anchor. From there, rap climber's left towards the big tree to a 2 bolt rap anchor. From there, with a 70 meter rope, one can reach a small ledge 8 feet off the ground - 5.0 downclimb to the ground from the ledge - but it is a real ropestretcher, so tie knots/watch ends.
    By Sean Grady
    Oct 19, 2015
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

    Overall great climb. Fun and very leadable for a 5.9 climber. The only caveat was the awful and somewhat dangerous rope drag on pitch 2. I suggest breaking up the pitches or moving belay station for pitch 2 beneath the crack corner.
    By Eric Klammer
    From: Boulder, CO
    Nov 15, 2015
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    You can make it from the nice bolted rap station atop Parallel Journey to the starting ledge of Perversion in one double 70m rope rappel. It's probably around 235-240' and just possible with rope stretch.

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