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Does anyone have any luck with Partner Finder? I sure don't. I have been on here for a number of years and get no responses. Look at my profile and see what I am saying wrong. Recently I sent out inquiries to 20 people that looked compatible and didn't get a single reply. John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
May 20, 2016
I haven't used the partner finder - yet - so can't comment on its effectiveness or the lack of response for your 20 pings. One immediate comment about your profile: you might be hammering on the age thing a bit too hard.
I'm 61 btw, and I don't think I'd word it that strongly, despite agreeing with your concern (about potential partners being scared away).
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
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May 20, 2016
I've never used the partner finder. I just make a post in the regional form. With that I've climbed with over 40 people on here over the years. 20 kN
From Hawaii
Joined Feb 2, 2009
1,109 points
May 20, 2016
I sent out at least 40 messages to people in partner finder in the Vegas area last winter and received fewer than 10 replies (though did find one reliable partner). Lost in the spam??? Probably better off posting in the regional forum. T Burgess
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Oct 27, 2008
50 points
May 20, 2016
i'd totally climb with you

but like most dating sites, a picture of yourself would probably help.
closed
Joined Apr 11, 2016
0 points
May 20, 2016
It's because you're a dude. (Seriously)

I travel a lot and I try to climb on my work trips, but I've never had luck finding climbing partners anywhere. I usually end up hiring guides if I really want to climb in a particular spot. It's awesome, but expensive as heck.

I'm a dude BTW.
BryanOC
From All over
Joined Jun 9, 2015
5 points
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May 20, 2016
Marc801 give me some suggestions on how to word my "age thing" I'm actually 71 but know that would scare off everyone. No one likes "Elderly" People John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
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May 20, 2016
Mitch Kelly: Doesn't look like you're on Partners Forum. Also, not much on your personal page. Where do you live? I'll try to post a picture. John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
May 20, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Me eating a cliff bar walking back from Frankenste...
I've had some great experiences with finding a partner on MP. It hasn't been using the partner finder so much but I have made more than one good friend from being on MP. I'm a fat guy who has a great day if he leads 5.5. Every friend climbs much harder than me too. Don't let grades get you down.

I've also had some scary days too.

Just keep at it and you'll have a partner soon:)
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
434 points
May 20, 2016
One of my favorite people to climb with is in his seventies. T Burgess
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Oct 27, 2008
50 points
May 20, 2016
John Robinson wrote:
Mack891 give me some suggestions on how to word my "age thing" I'm actually 71 but know that would scare off everyone. No one likes "Elderly" People


Was the "Mack891" a joke or a reflection of your declining vision?
FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
Joined Nov 19, 2009
279 points
May 20, 2016
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John Robinson wrote:
Mack891 give me some suggestions on how to word my "age thing" I'm actually 71 but know that would scare off everyone. No one likes "Elderly" People



Dude get over it! I met a girl on here who's 58 that crushes it. I still feel like I waste her time every day we hang out. Another buddy is 61 and leads Adirondack 5.9+. I met a guy right outta college that scared the shit out of me so...
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
434 points
May 20, 2016
John Robinson wrote:
Mack891 give me some suggestions on how to word my "age thing" I'm actually 71 but know that would scare off everyone. No one likes "Elderly" People

Did you mean me? I'd put it in my profile. I just wouldn't talk about it as extensively as you do in description part of the profile. I probably wouldn't bring it up at all.
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
May 20, 2016
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No offense to anyone, but there are always a group that seems to get partners (more well known?), and then there's the rest of us.

Our experience (my quite capable 22 year old son, and my far less capable 59 year old self), is that it is remarkably hard to get partners, even when it is people who know you. There is an awful lot of "sure! let's go climbing!", but then most bail out, usually last minute, if they ever commit in the first place.

Honestly, personally, your age would give me pause, but in my case, it's because I would feel even more intimidated by a 70+ crusher. Somehow that rubs it in even more than being in with the college kids, who are impressed that I try this at all. But most of you my age, have got decades of experience to my newness.

That said, if you mosey through Boise sometime, you can ask for a belay, if not a second! Or, coffee, at the very least.

That goes for the rest of you, too. But don't flake out on us if you do!

Best, Helen
Old lady H
From Boise, Idaho
Joined Aug 24, 2015
61 points
May 20, 2016
1. I suspect that location has something to do with it. I can post a note a few days ahead of time and more or less be assured of someone competent to climb with. I've spent a day out with people who weren't the best company, but I've never felt like I was free soloing with a rope attached. It's not my gender, it's not my looks, and it's definitely not because I crush the big numbers. I've also found one long term partner who I've been climbing with since 2003, and a couple of partnerships that spanned multiple seasons.

2. Put your real age and current climbing level in the appropriate spots in the profile and leave it at that. While you're at it, keep your tick list reasonably up to date so people can get an idea of what you've done in the past and what you've done recently. Anyone with hangups about their partner's age or about disparities in climbing ability should be bright enough to read your profile and decide if they want to climb with you. If they don't read your profile, that's their tough luck.

3. Your writings under "more information" are best described as "TLDR" (sort of like this post is starting to look). Everyone says they're a safe, competent belayer, and everyone wants a long term partner who they can do great things with, a la Messner/Habeler. Talking about long term partnerships in your profile or in a partner wanted ad strikes me as a little like discussing marriage five minutes into your first date with a girl.

HTH
mark felber
From Wheat Ridge, CO
Joined Jul 30, 2005
66 points
May 20, 2016
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I have been using the Regional Forum and Partners Forum the past few months and have had a lot of success. Found three partners within the time period for Joshua Tree. I think Joshua Tree is perfect because its a crag and you can bail if you partner turns out to be a jerk or unsafe. I almost always get a reply from my messages. I only message people that are looking for partners (as in they recently posted looking for a partner for one day or the weekend) instead of random people. kevin trieu
From San Juan Capistrano, CA
Joined Jul 29, 2009
11 points
May 20, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: .
BryanOC wrote:
It's because you're a dude. (Seriously)


Hahaha! I'd hate to say this is true but...

Been on Partner Finder for as long as I've been a contributing member of this site and I've gotten probably over a dozen partner requests.

Sometimes it's awesome to be a lady!
ClimbLikeAGirl
From Keene Valley
Joined Jun 14, 2015
15 points
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May 20, 2016
Per some of you people's suggestions I shortened and revised my "additional Information" section. I tried to "drag" a picture from "my Pictures" to my profile page but, it didn't work. Any suggestions? John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
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May 20, 2016
Sorry Marc801, I misspelled your last name. I corrected it John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
May 21, 2016
John Robinson wrote:
Sorry Mark801, I misspelled your last name. I corrected it

This is pretty funny! You "corrected" it to Mack801. Closer....and even in your correction post it's not quite there yet - it's Marc801, not Mark801.
I'd be fine with "that idiot from Utah" as well!
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
May 21, 2016
Wish I could comment, but Partner Finder isn't friendly for Canadians. Searching for Canadian Postal Codes brings up Colorado results. Markuso
From Fernie
Joined Jan 5, 2016
51 points
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May 21, 2016
So Marc801 give me a brake, I'm elderly. (Maybe that's the reason no one wants to climb with me) John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
May 21, 2016
John Robinson wrote:
Marc801 give me some suggestions on how to word my "age thing" I'm actually 71 but know that would scare off everyone. No one likes "Elderly" People


Speaking for myself, dishonesty would be a much bigger red flag for me than age. If someone is really willing to climb with a 51 year old, but 71 would be a dealbreaker all else being equal, is that really a person you'd want to climb with anyway? Wouldn't you rather they weed themselves out before wasting your time?

On the other hand, if the first thing I learned about a stranger I was considering roping up with is that they lied, either to trick me into climbing with them or for some other mystery reason, I'd be wondering what else they may have lied about, if they're really trustworthy enough to put my life in their hands, and I'd probably get right back in the car.

I hope I am so lucky as to still be climbing 5.11 when I am 71, that should make you proud, not embarrassed - and you should seek out partners who find that inspiring, not a reason to be "scared off".
Em Cos
From Boulder, CO
Joined Apr 21, 2010
11 points
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May 21, 2016
Thanks Em Cos. I suppose you are correct. I would, however, tell them my true age before we met. It's just that a lot of young people actually don't like old people. Recently I have been climbing with Jay who is 26 and we get along great so I know that (in many cases) the age difference doesn't matter that much but when they find out I am 71 they typically won't give me a chance. I probably am in better shape and climb harder than most 31 year olds but many would say, "That's fine, but the deal breaker is, you're old" You can say all the complementary things you want (and I appreciate it) but the truth is the truth. My usual climbing partners tend to be over 40 and that's probably more to do with, I have been climbing so long, my original partners are getting older with me. I have been climbing with some of my partners for over 20 years so we started when they were in their 20's and I was in my 50's John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points
May 21, 2016
I watched a 72 year dude head off into the unknown at Cochise to help a guy that had gotten off route. We were on a 5.8 with a semi hanging belay 100 pct chicken heads. I know these guys have been on the downhill side of things for decades and they STILL climb hard. Oh yeah his partner was in his late 60s. Not to embarrass these guys but Jim Dennis and Jim Loughran are the shit. I was stoked they let me tie in with them that day. I say if you are 71 and are worried about what people think. Show up tie in grab the rack and push off. After the first two pieces go in no one is going to give a shit about how old you are. Bill M
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Jun 30, 2010
328 points
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May 21, 2016
Bill M: You are missing my point, you said "I say if you are 71 and are worried about what people think"

I am not worried about what people think about me being 71. My only worry is if people know I am 71 they won't give my the time of day as far as this partner stuff goes.

Your second comment: "Show up tie in grab the rack and push off. After the first two pieces go in no one is going to give a shit about how old you are".
You are exactly correct but if they won't "give me the time of day" they will never see "tie in" and see if I can perform.

Bill: Do Jim Dennis and Jim Loughran climb at least 5.12a and are they over 70, if so I have a data base on Supertopo I would like to add them to.

I have probably gone on too long about this old/partner thing.
John Robinson
From Elk Grove, ca
Joined Apr 23, 2006
739 points


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