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Old and the Bold 

YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b

Type:  Trad, 5 pitches
Original:  YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Tai DeVore, Greg Smith, Jeremy Freeman et al.
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Submitted By: fossana on Jul 18, 2011

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Michelle leading P4


P1 (10c, 18 bolts)
Starting to the right of the pillar climb up a seam passing a rap station just left of the route ~half way up the pitch (you'll use it on the descent). Note: This pitch has the crappiest rock on the route. If you can get through it you'll be rewarded with some fun pitches on better rock up top. The route is worth more stars as this pitch cleans up.

P2 (10a, 3 bolts, gear to #4 Camalot)
Head up a short but awkward grainy crack past 2 bolts to a black chimney. Follow easier ground up the right-most crack system on better rock.

P3 (8, 10 bolts, gear to #2 Camalot)
Clip a bolt and step right around the arete onto a varnished face. Head up the face to the bolted anchor (hanging belay) or build a more cushy on a shrubby ledge at the base of the 10b corner.

P4 (10b, gear to #4 Camalot)

Grunt up the left-facing corner. Belay from either the top of the corner or at the base of the next left-facing corner.

P5 (10b, 2 bolts, gear to #4)
Head up the left-facing corner clipping a bolt under the roof as you traverse to the anchor.


The route starts just uphill from the pillar that sits on the right half of Big Horn Wall and climbs a reddish wall continuing through a break in the prominent roof system. The route stays shady even in summer.

Rap the route with 6 35m raps.


70m rope

Gear to #4 Camalot, extra #1-3s (nuts not necessary). Note: If you use the alternate belay for P3 you'll use up a #2. The next pitch is fairly sustained #2s and #3s so if you're not solid at that size consider triples.

Photos of Old and the Bold Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: Joe working the stem on P5
Joe working the stem on P5
Rock Climbing Photo: looking down P2
looking down P2
Rock Climbing Photo: Joe leading P3
Joe leading P3
Rock Climbing Photo: Joe on P1
Joe on P1
Rock Climbing Photo: start of P2
BETA PHOTO: start of P2
Rock Climbing Photo: looking up Pine Creek Canyon
looking up Pine Creek Canyon
Rock Climbing Photo: start of P1
BETA PHOTO: start of P1
Rock Climbing Photo: looking up the route from the base
BETA PHOTO: looking up the route from the base

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By Neil Kauffman
Jul 23, 2011

Nice route that gets some killer air under your feet! The first pitch is still a bit gritty with some loose holds which made it feel a little serious; it's well protected and should clean up with some more traffic. A single rack to .75 camalot, with doubles to #3, would be a great rack, the #4 got placed on P4 but wasn't necessary. Anyone know about the older-style 1/4" bolts on the route?
By Jason Chinchen
From: Bend, Oregon
Jul 27, 2011

Had fun on this! The last pitch is sick!
Great job Tai!
By jeremy freeman
Feb 16, 2012

neil, those 1/4" bolts were from the first acent party, who they are we have no clue. We assume that they continued to the top of the feature, but again thats just speculation.
By Wylie
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jun 17, 2012

I loved the first pitch and found the rock to be not so bad. It goes on forever!
By James Barnett
From: Bishop Ca.
Aug 24, 2012

Pulled a large block off at the 3rd bolt on the 1st pitch.
Not sure how difficult it is now, didn't continue.
By fossana
From: leeds, ut
Jun 4, 2013

Way to go wreck the route, James ;)
By Ian McEleney
From: Mammoth Lakes, CA
Jun 7, 2013

Climbed this today. Pitch 1 is definitely cleaning up. It's long. On pitch 3, the bushy ledge is a much better place to finish than the bolted anchor, but there's still some loose rock on the ledge and in the start of the corner above, take care if there are parties below. I second Neil's comments on the rack.
By Jeff Scheuerell
Jul 2, 2016

Kinda scary when you tap on a hand hold and feel the virations on your foot. If this is cleaning up, can't imagine the fa..

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