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Obviously Four Believers 

YDS: 5.11a French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c

Type:  Trad, Alpine, Grade IV
Original:  YDS: 5.11a French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Covington et al. FFA is disputed.
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Submitted By: slevin on Aug 4, 2001

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After crux move a nice traverse, climber: Peter Ya...

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A nice long route to do if you want more challenge than the Barb or Age Axe. Good climbing, varied, and just enough excitment to keep you focused. Easier than Statospear, the Feiges Direct on the Barb, and Spear Me The Details. Not as popular as it deserves to be, I suspect due to the Eye of Mordor section which seeps in even the driest years. My description differs from the guidebooks, particularly in how one accesses the Eye, the obvious eliptical feature in the lower left quadrant of the wall.
P1: From the left side of the wall climb a long easy pitch to a double ledge system.
P2: Continue up right a bit to the highest terrace, about even with the start of the Eye to your left.
P3: Climb up to an obvious left-diagonal crack in the slab (runout 5.8, a 2.5 Flex Friend placement can be found) which leads to the right side of the Eye of Mordor about a third of the way up it. Continue to the top (wet) and a belay at 2 fixed pins. Rated 5.9+ in guidebooks but perhaps solid 5.10.
P4: Follow 5.8 flakes up and slightly left, then belay on a large ledge well left at rap anchors (three raps to the ground).
P5: Now move back right 30 feet to a R-facing corner with a spot of 5.9 and 3 fixed pins. Belay in a circular niche from 2.5 to 3.5" cams.
P6: Move left on unprotected 5.8 or 5.9 face, then follow an easier crack to a stance at slings and 2 old bolts.
P7: Clip a bolt and do a difficult standup move off a flake to a second bolt. Follow a long undercling left (5.10-), then up to a good ledge.
P8: Step left, then follow a nice crack system (5.9) to an overhang, step left, and head for the top.


Two sets wireds to 3" cam, one 3.5" cam. Include RPs and TCUs. The four bolts on P7 (2 belay, 2 pro) are adequate but should be replaced. 2 ropes mandatory to bail from above P4. 60m ropes recommended.

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By Anonymous Coward
Aug 15, 2004

Is this the climb with the undercling crux protected by a quarter incher? Or am I thinking of something else? Oh well, everbody must get stoned.
By Nate A
From: Estes Park, CO
Mar 15, 2005

The first bolt on pitch 7 of this route is missing the hanger. Found this out last July while climbing Three Stoners, no way to back it up that I could find. A fall here would land you right on the belay.
By nolteboy
From: Fort Collins, CO
Jul 11, 2005

Jeff G and I replaced the hanger on the crux pitch's first bolt on 7/10/05. I found the crux move to be difficult for 11a, and subsequently "tested" (i.e. fell on) the bolt several times before pulling thru. Bolt seems to be in good shape.

All in all, a wandering route that has good climbing and travels thru some cool terrain.
By Mike Carnes
Jul 29, 2005

Jewelsy is that you? Do you want to come over to my house for a rope spagehti dinner. Thanks for the hanger. I'll test it out this weekend.
By Ross Swanson
From: Pinewood Springs
Jun 30, 2008
rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c

As of 29JUN08 there are now only 2 pins on P5, no big deal really.
P6 unprotected face climb is gripping.

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