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Nov 15, 2015
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Assuming I will be doing some trad following and cleaning very soon, I just bought my first nut tool, which will live on my climbing harness. What do you folks like for a tether, that's useful otherwise but still let's the tool function? Thanks! I didn't find any threads about such a small thing in any sort of search. Old lady H
From Boise, Idaho
Joined Aug 24, 2015
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Nov 15, 2015
I use one of those key chain bungies that has a key ring on one end and a plastic clip on the other. Bought it at Home Depot. fromtheestuary
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Nov 15, 2015
Small diameter(4mm) bungee cord works great. T340
From Idaho
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Nov 15, 2015
Just don't drop it like the rest of your climbing gear. Ryan7crew
Joined Feb 6, 2012
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Nov 15, 2015
I use a universal auto shutoff tether from a boat/jet ski. The coils are bigger, don't twist into knots when you extend/retract, can go more than full arm length, and barely hang below the tool when racked. Just cut off the plastic adapters, and swage/stitch a loop through your nut tool.

walmart.com/ip/Shoreline-Marin...
MichaelChad
From Broken Arrow, OK
Joined Aug 13, 2015
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Nov 15, 2015
I use enough 4 mil cord so I can extend my arm fully with the cord attached to a biner on my harness gear loop, with a loop tied in the end, and one midway. The loop midway helps the excess cord stay out of the way. The 4 mil cord is strong enough to use as an aid device with the nut key if needed ( a nut key makes a great A0 anchor) or a spare (but scary) last ditch runner if needed. I don't put nothing on my harness, biners or cords, that are not climbing related, such as decorative biners for my chalk bag or the above mentioned key fobs. Dale K
Joined Mar 22, 2015
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Nov 15, 2015
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Just really small chord. Jay Eggleston
From Denver
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Nov 15, 2015
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I just cut apart one of those old flip phone car chargers. Works perfectly. Paul-B
Joined Mar 26, 2011
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Nov 15, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Colonel Mustard
Ryan7crew wrote:
Just don't drop it like the rest of your climbing gear.


That's my solution as well. I've considered adding a tether, but never had a problem just not dropping the nut tool.
Colonel Mustard
From Sacramento, CA
Joined Sep 13, 2005
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Nov 15, 2015
Ryan7crew wrote:
Just don't drop it like the rest of your climbing gear.


That's what I'd recommend as well...does it not have a little wiregate on it or whatever? Unclip from harness, clip to rope or whatever, clean nut, unclip tool from rope and put back on harness. Nothing to get caught on stuff, tangled, etc.
Optimistic
From New Paltz
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Nov 15, 2015
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One of those really short and skinny BD Dyneema slings. You can run your wrist through the sling when using it if you worry you might drop it. William Kramer
From Kemmerer, WY
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Nov 15, 2015
This is what I use and it works well:


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Your best option
FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
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Nov 15, 2015
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I got one of those fancy Wild Country nut tools for my wife. She was afraid of dropping.

I stole that joint. It's kinda heavy but it works..
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
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Nov 15, 2015
Just don't drop it. Like Optimistic said. Clip it to the sling that's on the piece while cleaning. Less stuff is better. Scottmx426
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Nov 15, 2015
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No tether needed. Do you tether any of your other gear. It just gets clusterfucked with everything clipped to your harness. Learn to not drop your gear, is not that hard.

In certain instances it is convenient but in those your already hanging on the rope working hard to extract the gear. Simply clip an alpine draw to the nut tool.
rocknice2
From Montreal, Quebec
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Nov 15, 2015
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I disagree with those saying "just don't drop it." No other piece of gear do you use in the same way as a nut tool, tapping, jamming, pulling on cam lobes, etc. I like the safety of the tether. The ounce it adds effects no one. I like that i can just drop it while working on a piece and not worry. I also Like that I can let my second use it if they are a noob and feel safe. Paul-B
Joined Mar 26, 2011
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Nov 16, 2015
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Paul-B wrote:
I disagree with those saying "just don't drop it." No other piece of gear do you use in the same way as a nut tool, tapping, jamming, pulling on cam lobes, etc. I like the safety of the tether. The ounce it adds effects no one. I like that i can just drop it while working on a piece and not worry. I also Like that I can let my second use it if they are a noob and feel safe.


It's a matter of preference, not a right or wrong thing. For those considering it, I'd say to weigh a little more clutter on your harness depending on how you rig it, but I've run into climbers of all stripes who either do or do not use the keeper cable. No big deal.
Colonel Mustard
From Sacramento, CA
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Nov 16, 2015
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Get the Wild Country tool which has a coiled leash attached. The leash is long enough to reach placements across the body and I found that it doesn't hand up on things if you leave it dangling while climbing.

wildernessx.com/pro-key-nut-to...
Tombo
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Nov 18, 2015
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Thanks, everybody!

All I've got is a flat piece of metal, so clearly I have to do something. Since I have to come up with a clip anyway, my thought is that could someday be a bail biner, and a sling seems reasonable as part of that, and also useful. An Alpine draw appeals a lot too, as I'm quite short and a longer draw would be useful.

I'll maybe try it with just a biner, if one will work with it, and isn't annoying right where my hand would be, or something. Thanks again!
Old lady H
From Boise, Idaho
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Nov 18, 2015
Old lady H wrote:
Thanks, everybody! All I've got is a flat piece of metal, so clearly I have to do something. Since I have to come up with a clip anyway, my thought is that could someday be a bail biner, and a sling seems reasonable as part of that, and also useful. An Alpine draw appeals a lot too, as I'm quite short and a longer draw would be useful. I'll maybe try it with just a biner, if one will work with it, and isn't annoying right where my hand would be, or something. Thanks again!

Switching to the type with the integrated biner would be good no matter what you do tether wise. A real biner will be in the way when you're trying to clean something. Maybe our pro-tether friends can weigh in, but to me unless you use a 4' draw it'll be too short, you'd want to be able to get from your waist to full extension over your head, no?
Optimistic
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Nov 18, 2015
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MichaelChad wrote:
I use a universal auto shutoff tether from a boat/jet ski. The coils are bigger, don't twist into knots when you extend/retract, can go more than full arm length, and barely hang below the tool when racked. Just cut off the plastic adapters, and swage/stitch a loop through your nut tool. walmart.com/ip/Shoreline-Marin...


Why didn't this thread stop when this guy hit the nail on the head? This was a great idea, we all know what it is you need, he called it out as a product. It's cute to say "do or don't use one" but regardless, that's the item. I was fortunate enough to find mine, it's a keeper cord for a casino card, apparently the ladies at the slots can clip it to them and still swipe....

Anyway I have the keeper so I can intentionally drop my tool. Used a spare lightweight nano here, cuz otherwise your wasting weight. If your bail biner isn't light you'll notice it feels stupid on your harness pretty quick. Last useless criticism I have to offer: nut tool with wiregate clipper, and wiregate biner, you can attach keeper keyring to the gates, that way theres no chance of them coming off. Cuz if your keeper pops off while your doing your thing, than its even more useless. Can pics if you want...

Thread over
Tom Sherman
From Bristol, RI
Joined Feb 23, 2013
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Nov 18, 2015
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Tom Sherman wrote:
Thread over


Nobody said clip it to the rope while you work. Coil tether, or whatever tether you want, clip it in to the rope or the piece (assuming the piece is still clipped to the rope, but this isn't always practical, especially in a directional scenario - otherwise you might jam it loose and lose the whole thing if you aren't careful), and work away.

Just think it through every time until you get comfortable Old Lady H.
Gunks Jesse
From Shawangunk Township, NY
Joined May 18, 2014
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Nov 18, 2015
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Ryan7crew wrote:
Just don't drop it like the rest of your climbing gear.


Bingo. Not trying to dissuade you, but it's not very practical. It is if your leader is great at placing and never falls and doesn't weld anything in, but that will happen eventually. And if you need to hang at a weird angle and bang a stopper out with a cam or rock or what have you, you'll find that either you need a long, cumbersome piece of cord to get that angle, which is a PITA in and of itself, or, more likely, your cord will be too short. Just don't drop it.
don'tchuffonme
Joined Jan 13, 2014
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Nov 18, 2015
Tom Sherman wrote:
Why didn't this thread stop when this guy hit the nail on the head? This was a great idea, we all know what it is you need, he called it out as a product. It's cute to say "do or don't use one" but regardless, that's the item. I was fortunate enough to find mine, it's a keeper cord for a casino card, apparently the ladies at the slots can clip it to them and still swipe.... Anyway I have the keeper so I can intentionally drop my tool. Used a spare lightweight nano here, cuz otherwise your wasting weight. If your bail biner isn't light you'll notice it feels stupid on your harness pretty quick. Last useless criticism I have to offer: nut tool with wiregate clipper, and wiregate biner, you can attach keeper keyring to the gates, that way theres no chance of them coming off. Cuz if your keeper pops off while your doing your thing, than its even more useless. Can pics if you want... Thread over


Thanks, but I think there were some thoughtful and valid views after it, including yours.

To be fair, I use a harness with an extra ice tool carrier loop between the front/rear gear loops (Corax); where I rack my nut tool and a few other things on a biner that doesn't come off with the tool, and doesn't get mixed up with everything else. I think the tether would drive me crazy if I were racking it amidst my other gear. Were I to use another harness, I think I'd go back to racking it bare and just don't drop it, which frankly worked fine. I've never dropped it anyway.
MichaelChad
From Broken Arrow, OK
Joined Aug 13, 2015
20 points
Nov 18, 2015
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I've never dropped a nut tool while holding it, but I've had one (and maybe 2, never knew for sure about the 2nd) come unclipped from my harness. csproul
From Davis, CA
Joined Dec 3, 2009
355 points
Nov 18, 2015
I imagine we'll keep debating this until Arcteryx comes out with a $35.95 tether.

(Or DMM, Grivel etc...)
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