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YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 40'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Nathan Fisher on May 19, 2001

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This is the climb that climbs the flake on the right side. It pops over the flake and then starts a nice rightward shuffle. The shuffle is a blast, as the crack is nice on the fingers.


Bring large hexes and medium nuts for the anchors. Also, bring medium to large gear for the climb with some runners.

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Rock Climbing Photo: One final hand crack.
One final hand crack.
Rock Climbing Photo: Sloppy seconds on Notalobbatalk.
Sloppy seconds on Notalobbatalk.
Rock Climbing Photo: Jamming up the crack.
Jamming up the crack.

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By Andrew Gram
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Jul 7, 2004
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Stout for 5.8, awkward, and the crack flares inward so gear is a bit tricky to place, though solid if you work at it. Not nearly as good as the other 5.8 on the buttress.
By Lee Gitlin
Oct 7, 2004
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

The hardest move is getting off the ground, although you can protect the initial moves by placing a piece before you start climbing. Good hand jamming technique is a must, and there is a second crux right below the roof. The route protects well with SLCDs and hexes. The anchor station is a nice, picnic table ledge.
By Cameron Charles
Jun 20, 2007
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

This is a fun route, I thought the gear was fine, it is just a little short.
By Pete Spri
Jun 9, 2010

Nuts protect this better than cams; really irregular crack system.

Fun route, just a little short.

Also: a 2 bolt anchor has been added to a slab near the end of the route. I found it easier just to continue traversing off right to the tree/gully and belay from there. I don't really see the point of the newly added bolt anchors: you can't even rap from them since there are no quicklinks there.
By Tim Wolfe
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Jul 2, 2011
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Second best route on the wall after the 5.9 just to this routes left.
By Greg Z
From: Sandy, UT
Jul 7, 2012
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

This climb would be a good intro to trad climbing in BCC imo. Take your time and practice sewing it up! Clean it, think about what you really need up there and do it again.

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