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Lying on the Ground 

YDS: 5.11+ French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 24 British: E4 6a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch
Original:  YDS: 5.11d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E5 6a [details]
FA: Guy Lords and Ken Trout, 1991
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Submitted By: Richard M. Wright on Sep 12, 2001

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After the crux, but still a pretty hard move....


This is a three [now seven] bolt boulder problem can be started from the same stance as D's Dry Dream. This is Lying on the Ground. Gun for the nice ledge at 15 feet. It is reasonably easy to get the first two clips, but the third requires moving up to it first. This will net you a good clipping jug on the right. Nice problem with some specific beta.

Eds. note a subsequent, duplicate submission by Carolyn had been added & now deleted to help organize the database.


Originally 3 bolts & anchor. As of now, it apparently has been extended and includes 7 bolts.

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By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Nov 12, 2006
rating: 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a

Now, it's been a long time (10+ yrs), but my recollection of this route was it had 3 bolts, it was very short like 30' (fit my attention span at the time). Mark Rolofoson's old 1995 guide indicated it as such. Did it change? Addendum: this comment was in reference to another posting of the same route.
By Jason Haas
Feb 10, 2007

Why is this route given a PG-13 grade? There are 4 bolts on a barely 30ft. route. The first one is low and I'm sure if you hung from each bolt, you could reach the next with little effort or reaching. I skipped the second bolt though, which may be the retrobolt Leo is referencing. Addendum: this comment was in reference to another posting of the same route.
By Ken Trout
From: Golden, CO
Nov 29, 2007

FIRST ASCENT: Guy Lords and Ken Trout, 1991.

This is an eliminate problem. We went directly up the arete from the ground. No traversing in from the left! It used to have three bolts, now it has four.

I once saw a rattlesnake fall down this route and land on my pack in full buzz. There were a few little pebbles that came down first, warning us to keep our mouths closed.

The route name has to do with John Sherman's saying: "The ground doesn't lie." His point being that all climbers who use ropes and claim hard ascents are liars. We knew Sherman had been hurt bouldering and so Guy came up with the name "Lying on the Ground". Our point being that climbing hard stuff without a rope is for suckers.
By Derek Lawrence
From: Bailey
May 12, 2008

Contrived. Drilled pocket between 1st and 2nd bolts. 4 bolts total.
By Jay Eggleston
From: Denver
Jan 29, 2010
rating: 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a

The drilled pocket spoils the fun of some really good climbing.
By Mark Roth
From: Boulder
Jan 29, 2010

NOTE to pocket driller: Use a bigger bit next time. I couldn't fit my fingers in!
Just kidding, chipping sucks....
By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
May 8, 2013
rating: 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a

That jug to the right now wiggles significantly.

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