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Lloyd Would Have Liked It 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 80'
Original:  YDS: 5.10 French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
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Submitted By: Noah.J on Mar 26, 2013

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BETA PHOTO: First few quickdraws at bottom of route.


Follow the face up a bolt line past a tree growing up in a crack. Surmount the ledge, and climb the right face of the arete up to the crux section, a blank seeming face where a couple 5.10 crimps and slopey feet will let you go for the awesome incut top out. There are brand new (courtesy of the Carolina Climber's Coalition) bolts and rings to lower from.


To the right side of the ledge 20' above the trail.


Sport, (8? bolts...bring adequate draws).

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BETA PHOTO: Upper section
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Rock Climbing Photo: Lower section
BETA PHOTO: Lower section

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By dave Hause
From: carrboro, nc
Oct 22, 2013
rating: 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

I believe the name of this route is actually "Smooth Sailing".
By Benandstuff
From: Winston-Salem, NC
Apr 4, 2016
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

The trees that used to harangue this route have been chopped. A lot sunnier now, but also a lot cleaner. A very good route.
By A.J. Rimes
From: Charlotte, NC
Apr 14, 2017

DANGER!!! As of yesterday,t he last bolt before the end of the climb is hand loose! My friend had to use a bail biner(which he rappelled to get back). If you have climbed this route, you know that the last few moves are the hardest, and you can take a pretty big whipper if you fall. I am unfamiliar with the re-bolting process, but I have contacted the CCC in hopes they can fix it or contact someone who can. If anyone else knows who I can contact to get this climb reboltted, please let me know!
By Jordan G
2 days ago

I had a look at the crux bolt today while TR soloing and while the hanger is loose, the bolt itself seems solid, albeit in potentially friable rock (at least on the surface).

As for the route, fun and fairly easy climbing ends on a ledge under a beautiful white face. Climb up through nice moves on good holds to the crux. Figure out the weird beta for the crux move and keep it together through a few small crimps to a massive incut jug topout.

Also, I know it's Pilot, but it's pretty lame that someone chopped that tree.

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