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Life and Debt 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 70'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: 2007, The Shanty Team
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Submitted By: Johan on Sep 6, 2012

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High-quality flake/crack climbing that would likely be held in high regard if it only were longer. For the grade it requires a little thought (though that might just be the lack of chalk to follow) but it never gets too strenuous, so there's plenty of time to figure it out. After the bolts, follow the crack system to the top.


Starts at the right-most bolt line on the left side of the high dirt slope. It's the highest route on the slope, just left of the gully with the big chockstone.


Three quick bolts and then a mix of gear to 2". Quick-clip anchor.

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By Benjaminadk
From: San Pedro, California
Sep 7, 2012

agreed is a fun route. its long if u figure in where my belayer stood but there was a lot of easy slab leading to the actual climb as i recall.
By Gunkiemike
Jun 30, 2016

The crux moves are quite unlike most Shanty routes - more balancey and incremental. Make sure you eyeball the face (e.g. from LGD) and know where the anchor is, or else you might get suckered into trending left up high, over toward the anchor for Hard Times, since that comes into view before the L&D anchor.

Gear - small wires helpful.

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