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Jun 23, 2009
pfwein wrote:
Sounds a little bit like the story posted in one of the mags many years ago when Fred Nicole was doing a first ascent of a hard boulder problem in Yosemite and accidentally kicked his spotter. There is a view (which I generally agree with) than any contact with a spotter invalidates a send. But old Fred-he called it good since in his view the kick didn't make the send. He said something like "I only climb for myself."

This was in reference to a quick and early ascent, though not the FA of Dominator which at the time ws the hardest problem in Yosemite. In conclusion the author also stated that perhapse it was not so important because Fred is the Dominator.. or something along those lines.

Which gym are you at in FL?
Since that could make a big difference.
LeeAB Brinckerhoff
From ABQ, NM
Joined Aug 3, 2008
10,184 points
Jun 24, 2009
Yea I climb at least a couple letter grades harder outside than in, and I have practiced A LOT, so I don 't think indoor climbing is easy at all. Don't let the whiners get ya down David, you are rocking and they are jealous. I know that everyone who has posted is wishing they had been cranking .13's at 14.

The best part was just the first one. In 23 years when you are an old guy like me you will probably have climbed a few hundred, as well as a couple dozen .14's as well.

Keep cranking!
Kevin Stricker
From Evergreen, CO
Joined Oct 20, 2002
325 points
Jun 24, 2009
Seems to me the question you're asking yourself is whether you're a 5.13 climber. If you are, you should be able to go back and do the route again. If you can't, well, keep at it until you can and feel confident saying you can climb 13.

Whether being able to climb 13 indoor translates to being able to do it outdoor is something you'll have to find out for yourself.
Crag Dweller
From New York, NY
Joined Jul 17, 2006
50 points
Jun 24, 2009
Not to get too zen-like, but the number assigned to any route, indoors or out, is pretty much irrelevant. Did you do your best? Did you push your limits? Did you enjoy yourself? Did it really feel any harder than your first 12c or first 12d?

Read the Arno Ilgner book - if you pay attention to what he is saying you will understand that your question is really not worth asking. Just go be.
richard magill
Joined Jan 1, 2001
2,425 points
Jun 24, 2009
Leveille wrote:
as long as the ladies were down with it, its a send

Best answer.
Mike Dudley
From Vegas
Joined Nov 28, 2008
110 points

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