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Hueco: V9- Font: 7C

Type:  Boulder, 18'
Original:  Hueco: V9 Font: 7C [details]
FA: ward smith
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: mattgiossi on Dec 26, 2011

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Chris Johnson a few moves into Hueco Dreams


start on lower left jug rail (feet for gravity hits)
up the quartz line into who needs hueco to finish. end on lip service nice addition makes for a better finish


all the way left in cave on big ledge for gravity hits



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By mattgiossi
From: warwick ri
Dec 26, 2011

very cool climb adds about four moves to who needs hueco the only thing is the start feet i think might be in water when the caves water level is high usually early spring no good. i did this problem today and there was no water at all so i think the best time to work it is LATE FALL TO END OF WINTER . very fun climb.
By ryan cosman
Jan 8, 2012
rating: V9 7C

Was physc'd to hear about a possible addition at pond cave, went there yesterday and sent, beautiful addition to an already awesome problem and flows into who needs heuco perfectly, a serious must do for anyone and even better than the orginal. i agree with the rating at v9 great find matt
By Karthik Sonty
Sep 24, 2013
rating: V7-8 7B

Should probably be called 'Who needs who needs hueco?'. Full value! So much better!
By Derek Jf
From: Northeast
Aug 29, 2014

Climb starts at 0:30 mark

"Chris Johnson on the low start to a Woods' classic -"

PS - apologies on the portrait mode of the footage, but, -enjoy

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