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How would living in Syracuse be for a climber?
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Sep 7, 2012
foodgeek wrote:
Alright, so the food is terrible, there's a complete lack of jobs, the awful weather, and a complete lack of decent climbing in the area, but you forgot to mention that flights from Syracuse to places worth visiting are expensive and often delayed or canceled. On the bright side, after you live in Syracuse for a while you'll be psyched about the culture in Fresno.

Ha! I use this comparison all the time. I grew up on the east coast and my brother went to college in Syracuse. Whenever people from the east coast ask what Fresno is like, I always ask, "Have you been to Syracuse?"
Tom Fralich
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Nov 12, 2006
62 points
Sep 7, 2012
Quebec is within striking distance though. For a climber it seems to be a whole new frontier. When I lived in Vermont we never went up there. Now that I'm in Colorado I took a cragging trip up there while visiting the family in New England and it was super cool. Plus, endless ice, big walls over the water, cooler temps in the summer, great food, friendly locals... scott rourke
Joined Oct 2, 2007
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Sep 7, 2012
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did you just refer to French-Canadians as "friendly locals??" Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Joined May 4, 2011
700 points
Nov 29, 2012
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handon broward wrote:
Being from upstate / western NY I can say with full conviction it is not the place for a climber to live. There is no rock, the weather is terrible most of the time and the people are not at all like those in the climbing community. The only city I would recommend in NY would be Albany, strictly because of its proximity to the Gunks and its not super far from the Dacks as well. Otherwise, if you can afford to go more off the map lives in the Dacks. Saranac Lake, Tupper Lake and Lake Placid are all great towns with amazing atmosphere, food and people besides the obvious factor of being located close to / in one of the biggest overall climbing areas in the continental US. That being said, a climbing day in the Dacks does not consist of driving to a parking lot and a five minute approach to a wall with ten or more perfect sport routes. The climbing in the Dacks is very spread out and very mixed, but packed with hidden gems, theres a reason why many hardmen have chosen to spend theor careers hidden in the back woods here. Being from NY state I am a little prejudice, some people can't stand being out in the sticks, personally I love it, but what you think is the only thing that counts. Good luck man. PS - what is with you people and Wegmans. Many other grocery stores are just as good and actually care about their employees and community as compared to just making profit. Dont support the machine.

YO this guy is totally right

i live in syracuse as a student and there is NOWHERE close to climb! the weather is terrible from october to april every year so unless you live here and are close to the gunks or adirondacks, then i wouldnt EVER recommend living here.

as a matter of fact i am transferring to UC at boulder next year, one reason being the stellar rock climbing!
From maryland
Joined Apr 15, 2012
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Nov 29, 2012
Having grown up in NY, NJ, and PA, and gone to school in Ithaca and then moved to California, I believe I can speak with experience.

I'd recommend taking up kayaking, canoeing, horseback riding, and deer hunting if you have to live in Upstate New York. If you take up deer hunting, you'll have a weapon available to put yourself out of your misery.
Joined Sep 15, 2012
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Nov 30, 2012
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I have replied to this thread before, and have pretty much said my piece.

However, as a former guide in my native-born state of Colorado,and as a graduate of CU Boulder (ahem, for those who know, it is CU not UC), and as a resident of the great Republic of Boulder for 8 years, I can say you will be one of thousands who climb and mountaineer. True, there is plenty of terrain. With it comes the lines, the competition, and the ego. It is Mecca.

This summer and fall my partner (also from Boulder)and I tackled a dozen or more crags in the Adirondacks alone. We never waited in a line, always had splitter weather, and we always have stellar folks to go with. We are looking ahead to some great days of backcountry skiing and ice climbing this winter.

A large gym is breaking ground in Syracuse this winter. Granted, this region is slower to pick up where the west has been for decades, but it is happening. For those who choose to bash where they are from, I believe you gave up before you began. I believe you may be starry-eyed about the west, and dismissive about a place you may not have ever made a true effort to know. Maturity, openness, and attitude make for a fertile experience wherever you choose to live.

I for one respect the hard climbers of the east. The climbs are rated tougher. But if one is a true climber, you are a climber wherever you go. I send sincere best wishes for a rich experience as you move west.
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Nov 30, 2012
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ErinN wrote:
Maturity, openness, and attitude make for a fertile experience wherever you choose to live... But if one is a true climber, you are a climber wherever you go. I send sincere best wishes for a rich experience as you move west.

As an aspiring mountaineer, there just isn't enough in the East to satisfy. Compared to out West, within 2-4 hours of Boulder there's a lifetime of technical, 500+ foot ascents to be had. MP says so at least.

I agree that as far as cragging goes, there's definitely plenty around between the ADKs, Whites, and Gunks.
Kevin Heckeler
From Upstate New York
Joined Jul 10, 2010
1,639 points
Nov 30, 2012
It pains me to have to admit it, but for once I find myself in agreement with Mr. Heckeler.

Having spent lots of time, opportunity, and gas money wallowing around in the mud and slush back east, I headed west. For the common reasons (woman, employment) I found myself in those dreary depressing eastern environs not once, but twice again, and have since left for the west, hopefully to never return to those gray, sodden, humid, poison ivy infested, under-educated, economically deprived regions where the crags often fail to penetrate the treetops.

I took up hunting and whitewater to maintain some sanity, as both of those activities can be pursued in foul (fowl?) weather. Give me the reliably indigo blue skies of the Sierras instead, where the California girls are one-third the size of their eastern and midwestern counterparts.

Yes, I loved the Gunks (I'd love to climb there again, on the annual fine day), and was introduced to mountaineering in the Whites, and tackled hard water ice in the Finger Lakes, but in comparison to the West, the East is a drag.

The only thing wrong with California is that 39 million people love it. Thankfully, most of them never even make it to the trailhead.
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