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Apr 12, 2011
Reaing PPTP's aid info is a good idea, with the following caveate:

There's usually a better/dirtier way to get the job done that makes more sense (efficiency-wise) for most trade routes. You'll figure these things out as you go. PPTP's concepts are def more complex and tend to make more sense when on harder routes and when dealing with larger loads than an average climber would use on a normal trade route.

Consider PPTP's info as theory. It's good to know because often you'll find yourself in situations when things go wrong or are unexpected; this is where knowing alternate (aka "the better way") will help you get out of a sticky situation without having to grunt/cry/sweat your way out of it.
kevin deweese
From Oakland, Ca
Joined Jan 14, 2007
329 points
Apr 12, 2011
John McNamee wrote:
Don't buy a hammer.

Johns info is pretty much right on except for the hammer. While clean aiding the follower SHOULD carry a hammer, it allows the cleaning of tiny aid trinkets much easier and less destructive on both the wires, and if your climbing on sandstone, the placements. We got stuck behind a party attempting lunar x without a hammer, and the follower couldn't clean many many pieces, they ended up bailing and we got almost a full set of HBs. Just take one hammer per party, and in the event of emergency the leader can tag it up :)
Dustin B
From Steamboat
Joined Jan 29, 2006
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May 22, 2011
"Chuck Manburger=Locker?"...

Well I am here as well...

But NO...

NOT ME!!!...
From Yucca Valley, CA
Joined Oct 13, 2002
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Feb 25, 2012
fuck it. just buy some aid climbing gear and go do it. brian hess
From Logan, Utah
Joined Jan 13, 2009
401 points
Feb 25, 2012

here's a TR about doing a wall last year up at index. I find aid is fun to do every once and a while. you can get to some really cool spots hanging on gear. good luck to you.
Keenan Waeschle
From Bozeman, MT
Joined Feb 8, 2010
232 points
Feb 25, 2012
Mike wrote:
-Slowly start pooping nearer & nearer to your friends, so that you eventually can drop trou & shit mid-conversation. Bonus points for maintaining eye contact. .

Damn that's funny!
From . . . CO
Joined Feb 26, 2010
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Feb 25, 2012
...back from the dead S Denny
From Aspen, CO
Joined Sep 25, 2008
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Feb 25, 2012
Being a foreign country that supplies the U.S. with alot of drugs or one that is full of terrorists or both will certainly get you into aid s.price
From PS,CO
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