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Here Today Gone Tomorrow 

YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch
Original:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
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Submitted By: Richard M. Wright on Mar 7, 2002

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HTGT or Toura Obscura?


Begin Here Today Gone Tomorrow just left of the starts for Mr. Peery and Mrs. Hen. The 5.11 variation runs straight up, the standard line lines dodges left for a short distance. Either way converges on an airy step-over shortly before the anchors. While the 5.11 variation seems contrived, the step-over gives the route some interest.


Ten draws and a rope.

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By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Mar 13, 2002

Way contrived to do the 11d version!
By Jay Eggleston
From: Denver
Feb 16, 2010

The route described here is called "Toura Obscura" in the Haas and Schneider guidebook. However, in Rolofson's 1995 guide it is called "Here Today Gone Tomorrow". Does anyone know which is correct? In the new guide, "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" is described as two climbs to the right.
By Dave Clark 5.10
From: Golden, CO
Aug 19, 2010

I believe the route being climbed in the photo is Toura Obscura. HTGT and ...Pink Stain share the crack on the right side of the photo. HTGT continues up the bolt line on the arete in the upper right of the photo, which actually trends further to the right than it appears in the photo. Pink Stain continues up the crack system to the double roof and over the second roof. Both Pink Stain and HTGT are 5.10ish and harder than Toura Obscura.
By John Tex
From: Estes
Feb 27, 2014

Can someone explain something to me? I climbed the route titled HTGT in the Haas guidebook, and it calls it a nine, or an 11 if you stick to the arête. Also the first bolt is 30 feet up, bring a cam, or clip a bolt for another nearby route. It is a total of 5 bolts. MP says 10... Also, I flashed Bullet the Brown Cloud and the Flying Carrs route, 11b and a respectively, and not only couldn't finish the 11 variation, but could not even find the 9 route! Left of the arête there is nothing, so in my opinion you have to do the 11 and stay true to the arête.

Am I on the wrong route, is the guidebook off, of did I just get beat on this thing. The line in the guidebook shows you going up to a detached arête about 30 feet up, no bolts til then. And if this is Toura Obscura, can this be fixed.

Where is the 9?
By Tombo
From: Boulder
May 24, 2014

We climbed in from Mrs. Hen and used those two bolts to start. If you're going straight up the crack to the hand crack, you'd want a couple of pieces of gear. I thought the hand crack was harder than Blind Faith in Eldo. The humidity may have made it feel more difficult than it was, but it felt 10a to me. I tried going straight up the arete and couldn't manage it kept hanging trying to see what I was missing. Ended up climbing into the dihedral and back out to clip the bolts. Don't know if this is the way to do it, but it still felt harder than the grade. I think it had two cruxes of at least 10- each.
By curt86iroc
From: Golden, CO
Nov 15, 2015
rating: 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

Much harder moves than the 5.9 directly to the left. If you climb the bolt line, the moves at the 2nd and 5th bolts put this at 10-.
By physnchips
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 12, 2017
rating: 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b

Maybe I straddled the 9 and 11 variation, or got off route in some way, but I thought this was definitely harder than 9 but not as hard as an 11 variation. Regardless, I think both ways seem to have the step over move which I thought was hard and committing (unless it too has some 9 out that I missed). I guess split the difference and give it a 10.

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