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Jan 29, 2016
Hello,

I went really hard at the gym yesterday for an extended period of time. I climb a lot at the gym usually 3-4 times a week but yesterday was about a 2-3 hour session as opposed to my normal hour or 90min.

When I woke up this morning I noticed something that I have never noticed before (see photo) a weird pretty large bump between my knuckles. I experienced no trauma to the finger yesterday, just hard climbing, and neither the bump nor my finger have any pain whatsoever, just this weird bump. When I push on it, it feels like it is full of air, and will even disappear for a minute before swelling back up.

I'm laying off of it for a bit but is this a major concern? Will it just go away? Again, no trauma, and no current pain. Am I ok to continue climbing maybe just avoid the campus board for a while?

Any help is hugely appreciated, my health insurance is dodgy.
Rock Climbing Photo: My new knuckle
My new knuckle
KevinShea
Joined Dec 30, 2014
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Jan 29, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: At the BRC
Maybe Google ganglion cyst. Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
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Jan 29, 2016
Thanks Mark - yeah I was going down that road. Maybe the thing had been there longer and I just haven't realized? Seems strange. Any thoughts on whether I should avoid climbing? Most articles seem to say try and smash it or just let it go away. It isn't bothering me. KevinShea
Joined Dec 30, 2014
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Jan 29, 2016
mountainproject.com/v/ganglion...

Edit: The ganglion cysts I have had have been between the main knuckles on the back of the hand, not on the finger like yours.

Edit II - Is your fingernail painted sky blue, Kevin?
FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
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Jan 29, 2016
Thanks Frank - it's definitely a cyst. I'll give it a few days before maybe trying to smoosh it.

Only question is- is it ok to climb on? Again no trauma and no pain...
KevinShea
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Jan 29, 2016
KevinShea wrote:
Thanks Frank - it's definitely a cyst. I'll give it a few days before maybe trying to smoosh it. Only question is- is it ok to climb on? Again no trauma and no pain...


I don't think climbing on it makes it any worse. I'm not a fingerologist, though.
FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
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Jan 29, 2016
Thanks again Frank. Yeah I will probably just take it easy on in and monitor for a while. KevinShea
Joined Dec 30, 2014
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Jan 29, 2016
Yes Frank, sky blue. KevinShea
Joined Dec 30, 2014
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Jan 30, 2016
Did you ice it by any chance ? If so, did it change ?

I have nodules from arthritis, but they grow directly on the knuckle(mostly) and generally are not from short term trauma.
john strand
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A friend of mine had one of these, he was drunk and we convinced him of an old home remedy to smash it with a bible. so he put his hand down on the table...WHAM. Funny thing is, it actually worked! Dustin B
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KevinShea wrote:
Yes Frank, sky blue.

Maybe it wasn't climbing related...
Maybe it's a fingernail painting injury...
LOL
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john strand wrote:
Did you ice it by any chance ? If so, did it change ? I have nodules from arthritis, but they grow directly on the knuckle(mostly) and generally are not from short term trauma.


Hmm yeah I thought of that but I don't think I have any symptoms of arthritis, no pain. I didn't ice it at all. Sometimes after a hard climbing session the following morning my hands feel kinda creaky and I have a tendency to pop my knuckles but I don't think I have any arthritis that I know of... or maybe I might?
KevinShea
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Jan 30, 2016
KevinShea wrote:
Hmm yeah I thought of that but I don't think I have any symptoms of arthritis, no pain. I didn't ice it at all. Sometimes after a hard climbing session the following morning my hands feel kinda creaky and I have a tendency to pop my knuckles but I don't think I have any arthritis that I know of... or maybe I might?



I should add this isn't on the knuckle but it is very close.
KevinShea
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Jan 30, 2016
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can you transilluminate it? Buff Johnson
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Buff Johnson wrote:
can you transilluminate it?


I don't have a super powerful light but from what I see it looks sorta empty, just sorta glows red like light passing through the skin and not much blocking light inside the bump.
KevinShea
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Jan 30, 2016
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omg, yer gonna die!
it's fine
Buff Johnson
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Rock Climbing Photo: Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...
Video tape the smash and share. Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
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Jan 31, 2016
... and don't worry about Frank. While he has issues, he's harmless. Bill Lawry
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Jan 31, 2016
I've got dorsal ganglion cysts in both wrists and they flare up about once a month and I normally can't flex my wrist they are so damn painful. Had them both aspirated, and that didn't work. Just had them surgically removed, was out almost 2 months for recovery and one month after that the left one is back... If the right one comes back im just gonna cut off my hands. John Tex
From Estes
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Feb 1, 2016
Full of air or full of fluid? Looks like bursitis to me. I got it on an elbow once, woke with it the day after weightlifting plus climbing. Rested it and it went away over a week or two. kevin neville
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Fucking bursitis. I have it on my right elbow from smashing it against poorly set holds in the gym. Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
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kevin neville wrote:
Full of air or full of fluid? Looks like bursitis to me. I got it on an elbow once, woke with it the day after weightlifting plus climbing. Rested it and it went away over a week or two.


I'm pretty sure there isn't a bursa at the location pictured.
Mark E Dixon
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Feb 1, 2016
kevin neville wrote:
Full of air or full of fluid? Looks like bursitis to me. I got it on an elbow once, woke with it the day after weightlifting plus climbing. Rested it and it went away over a week or two.


Aha - this is interesting. It actually feels way more like it is filled with air! There is no pain though, and I climbed hard on it yesterday with no discomfort. It does seem to be fading a bit though, seems to be a bit smaller than it was.

Funny thing is - I think this sucker literally popped out of nowhere when I cracked this knuckle in the morning after climbing. Any way that could have brought it about? I remember my hands feeling worked from the day prior climbing and cracked my knuckles and swear this thing popped out as soon as I did that. Possible?
KevinShea
Joined Dec 30, 2014
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Feb 1, 2016
Well cracking knuckle sounds are the release of air...you prolly will get arthritis if you keep that up. john strand
From southern colo
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Feb 1, 2016
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john strand wrote:
Well cracking knuckle sounds are the release of air...you prolly will get arthritis if you keep that up.


nytimes.com/2015/04/21/science...
Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Joined Nov 29, 2007
517 points
Feb 1, 2016


Yes thank you - I read this article a while ago and it stuck in my mind. It is possible that the cracking of my knuckle gave birth to this bump. So weird.

I don't know how anyone who climbs avoids cracking their knuckles sometimes. After a lot of face / gym climbing my hands feel tight and it seems natural to crack knuckles sometimes.
KevinShea
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