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6 days ago
Rock Climbing Photo: Haul setups
Haul setups


Are any of these proposed hauling systems good/ or dangerous?

-Mark
Mark Ashcroft
Joined Mar 20, 2017
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6 days ago
What are you hauling? How are you holding the load when you reset each stroke?

Go to the bigwalls section and look at Mark Hudon's 2:1 ratchet. It should be all you ever need. 3:1 can be done for rescus purposes, but I have yet to need one in almost 20 years of climbing, and a dozen or so walls.

Hudon Hauler
Moof
From Portland, OR
Joined Dec 11, 2007
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6 days ago
Future planning for bigwalls, currently building solo belay system and would like to have dual purpose& strength to haul.

My idea here is that the Petzl Rescucender/Rollclip will be the progression capture device, and the Handled Ascender will be where I pull & add a foot ladder.

This photo is on the Rescucender manual.
Rock Climbing Photo: manual example
manual example


The additional pulley I added to their system would be to increase efficiency as pulling down is easiest & can incorporate the whole body.

I'm trying to go with this Rescucender because it is designed without sharp teeth :-D

I think my proposed system(1) would bring the Rescucender up into the pulley's and get all kinds of jammed. Compared to Hudon's 2:1, I wouldn't have the means to reset the system like the second short rope he's using.
Mark Ashcroft
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6 days ago
Mark Ashcroft wrote:
Future planning for bigwalls, currently building solo belay system and would like to have dual purpose& strength to haul. My idea here is that the Petzl Rescucender/Rollclip will be the progression capture device, and the Handled Ascender will be where I pull & add a foot ladder. This photo is on the Rescucender manual. The additional pulley I added to their system would be to increase efficiency as pulling down is easiest & can incorporate the whole body. I'm trying to go with this Rescucender because it is designed without sharp teeth :-D I think my proposed system(1) would bring the Rescucender up into the pulley's and get all kinds of jammed. Compared to Hudon's 2:1, I wouldn't have the means to reset the system like the second short rope he's using.


For Hauling if you just release tension on the rope, the weight of the rescucender or say a non spring loaded Gibbs ascender (with the roller carabiner) may just slide down the rope to effectively grab a new bight then you can resume hauling.
Sdm1568
From Ca
Joined Aug 7, 2012
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6 days ago
As was mentioned above, this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Big Wall/Aid section of the forum. The general conclusion is that Mark Hudon's 2:1 system is the best. Though he didn't invent it, he's a big advocate of it and has worked the kinks out so that it's easy to setup and use. I used it on The Nose last year and it was perfect. Ryan Hamilton
From Orem
Joined Aug 11, 2011
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6 days ago
Thank you for getting me onto his forum, I learned a lot about different systems, and will be planning a test haul for my alternative system and see what the Rescucender does! But in the end I will also be picking up the micro Traxion plus the two lightweight pulleys, and build a 2:1 like Mark Hudon's with my one heavy piece being the Rescucender. :-) I'll follow up in the future with my findings! Mark Ashcroft
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