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Group Therapy 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 100'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Ron Olsen, Bill Henson, Brenda Leach, 11/1/08
New Route: Yes
Fixed Hardware: 10 Lead Bolts, 2 Anchor Bolts [details]
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Submitted By: Ron Olsen on Nov 4, 2008

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    Group Therapy is a new sport route that goes up the left side of the Dan's Line slab. It is well bolted, and a good route for a new sport leader.

    Start as for Dan's Line, at a flat boulder. Scramble up a left-angling groove to a good ledge above a little pine tree. The first bolt is about 10' above the tree. Climb straight up the face on good edges. At the fifth bolt, step right and climb up to a big ledge, avoiding the dark fractured rock on the left. Continue up the slab, staying on the face as much as possible, avoiding the corner on the left. Surmount a small bulge, and continue to the anchor.


    Same as for Dan's Line, at a flat boulder.


    10 bolts to a 2-bolt anchor with lowering hooks. Be careful if you lower; some 60m ropes come up a little bit short -- tie a knot in the end of the rope.

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    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Mar 22, 2009

    Crux was near the top, I thought.
    By Jay Eggleston
    From: Denver
    May 12, 2009

    A nice moderate with maybe one 5.8 move near the top.
    By Rick Casey
    From: Lafayette, Colorado
    Jul 5, 2009

    Note: lowering a second climber on 60m rope back to the start of the route will be very close to the end at the finish...actual footage of rope's stated lengths do vary!
    By Karl F
    Aug 20, 2009

    !!!!!!!!!There was a serious accident here on 8/19/09 because 60 m rope was not long enough and end went through belay device lowering the leader. Climber fell about 40 ft below belay and nearly died. Please use caution and tell others to belay from ridge directly below 1st bolt or be prepared to lower to ridge and scramble down. A knot in the end of the rope is an easy way to save a life.
    By Tony B
    From: Around Boulder, CO
    Aug 20, 2009
    rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

    Who told you it was a 60m rope? Did you verify that?
    Who told you that someone nearly died? Nobody is nearly dead.

    Yes, one needs to be attendant to rope length, but let's not sensationalize things.
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Aug 20, 2009

    "Nobody is nearly dead." Hey, cool route name!!
    By Matt Swartz
    From: Los Angeles, CA
    Nov 10, 2009

    Easiest way to avoid this, always tie into/tie a knot in the end of your rope!
    By Top Rope Hero
    From: Was Estes Park, now homeless
    Apr 3, 2010

    There is ANOTHER easy way to avoid rappelling-off-the-end-of-your-damn-rope accidents.

    Pay. Attention.

    Use your head and you don't need to use knots.
    By Robbie Flick
    From: Denver, CO
    Sep 5, 2010
    rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

    A fun route that goes pretty easy until the bulge. Not as sustained at its grade than the other moderates in the area.

    Of course, be mindful of your rope! We used a 70m, and it was looking a little thin after both ends were on the ground....
    By prod. Kenny
    From: Boulder, Co
    Oct 2, 2011

    Nice line, pretty easy for the grade. 60m rope just long enough. Tie a knot on the end of the rope.

    By Jay Eggleston
    From: Denver
    Feb 4, 2013

    There does not appear to be loose blocks on this anymore.
    By -- Chris --
    Nov 10, 2014
    rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

    I didn't notice any loose rocks along the way. Everything I used in the black band seemed solid enough.

    This climb would be a good first lead for a timid climber - tons of bolts!
    By Mike Deitchman
    From: Boulder, CO
    Apr 25, 2016
    rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

    Climbed this line this afternoon.

    Fun moves, no surprises. All hardwear seemed fine.

    5.8- seems right, though I tend to the sandbagger side of things....

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