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Good and Plenty 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 90'
Original:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: Amy Diesen, Mike Diesen
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Submitted By: Mike Diesen on Jan 7, 2009

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On a one of the ledges.


Starts up ramp/slot on left then follows the face past bolts to chains. Good moderate climbing with a small headwall at top. Great first lead.


First route on the left kind of hidden in corner.


Bolts, Good anchors. You could use a midsize tcu in the middle of the climb if you care to

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Rock Climbing Photo: Todd starting up Good and Plenty.
Todd starting up Good and Plenty.
Rock Climbing Photo: The start just left of the tree.
The start just left of the tree.

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By Boodge Nomchompski
Sep 13, 2009
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Agreed - a smallish cam might make a fledgling leader feel safer...but I wouldn't wanna fall on said cam since it'd be behind a somewhat loose block. One move past that and you're standing on a picnic ledge.
By JLPierce
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Sep 21, 2009
rating: 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b PG13

I disagree on the "GREAT 1st LEAD" thing, can't see/ hardly hear the climber, not steep enough(ledge fall=broken ankle?), but then again prob just me, I usually don't prefer the hike-type climbs. =)
By Boodge Nomchompski
Oct 6, 2009
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Sorry to disagree with you, JLPierce, but this is fine as a first lead. It's insanely easy - I would venture to say that if someone is falling on this route (which is soft for 5.7), they're probably not ready to safely lead ANYTHING yet. As far as communication goes, my belayer, who is partially deaf (literally) had no problems hearing me.
By Alex McIntyre
From: Tucson, AZ
Mar 6, 2011

Was out at Sweet Rock this weekend, did this one. It is fun! I grabbed my rack because I thought I saw a couple good placements and as I am just starting trad I could use the practice.. Ended up clipping only 3 of the bolts. Lowered off and came back later and did it again, and only clipped one of the bolts. This thing takes good gear. Only bolt I clipped was the third, and that is only because I didn't trust myself (I injured my leg playing tag the night before). Protects very well.
By gblauer Blauer
From: Wayne, PA
Dec 7, 2012

Great climb. Gee, that bolt looked really far away...fear not, the climbing is easy. lots of fun.
By Nick Henscheid
From: Tucson, AZ
Apr 22, 2013
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Fun, easy 5.7 with a variety of interesting movement. Maybe not the best first lead due to visibility (belayer can't check for back clipping, etc) but definitely a good warm up or beginner lead. Confident climbers will not feel the need for extra gear, but there seem to be some good placements.
By Adra
From: Portland, OR
Mar 6, 2014

While this climb felt soft for 5.7, the moves and climb itself were really fun and interesting. I thought this was a great warm-up for the rest of the wall. You definitely could go with the trad rack instead of clipping the bolts as Alex commented.
From: Mesa AZ
Mar 17, 2014

Great first time climb ....

Rock Climbing Photo: Rock Climbing on Good and Plenty in Cochise Strong...
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By Paul Zander
From: Neuchatel, CH
Apr 17, 2016
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

If you're a 5.7 leader or new leader, bring a 0.4 or 0.5 for the runout 2/3rds of the way up.
By Jalisa
Aug 22, 2016

Left a quick draw about 3 or 4 bolts up on this route. Is an orange beaner on rock/bolt, white mid piece and silver beaner for rope. if found!

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