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Ginseng for Genius 

Hueco: V9-10 Font: 7C+

Type:  Boulder, 13'
Original:  Hueco: V9-10 Font: 7C+ [details]
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Submitted By: matthewWallace on Nov 8, 2013

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The red line. V8, possible much harder.


The crux is the first move off of a bad left hand chip crimp and poor right hand sloper crimp. Pick some feet and toss up to the quartz starting holds of Pound for Pound.

I have not done this route, I have tried it, but I am adding it so people know it is out there.

There is rumor that this route is much harder than than v8 that it was originally given, not sure if something broke or the people who told me this and I have missed something.


Basically under the top out jug of Randy Moss, it is an obvious crimp and sloper you start on, on the steep wall.


Pad and spotter.

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By matthewWallace
From: Sandwich, NH
Apr 29, 2016

Has anyone ever sent this line? I would love to know what it actually goes at
By Troy Fauteux
From: Henniker NH
May 12, 2017

Was curious on how hard this thing would be so I tried it out last night. After about 10 goes the closest I came to sticking the first move was about 5 inches away. Not the greatest line at The Pound but it should be noted as one of the hardest. Probably closer to 10/11 in my opinion but hard to say for sure and it's really not a fun enough climb to put that much effort into.(Scrunchy start on bad hand holds with little to no footholds) Unless I was missing something. Anyway just throwing that out there. Maybe I'm jumping the gun and it actually is only V8. I'll try it again at some point and give an update if I send.
By matthewWallace
From: Sandwich, NH
May 13, 2017

Thanks for the input Troy! I believe a starting hold broke on it years ago, resulting in the upgrade. I will change the line grade to v10 as I have heard from many people they think it is much harder than v8, and when I have tried it, I though it was much harder as well.
By Ian McAfee
From: Concord, NH
May 13, 2017

I also tried this yesterday, very cool line actually, was able to hit both of the potential right hand holds you can throw to, but wasn't quite engaging either, I was thinking maybe 9, but who knows. As for breakage, not sure, if the left hand were bigger it'd definitely be a bit easier.

Cool line, save for the awkward rock at the start, but it doesn't affect anything once you pull on.

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