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Forever Jung 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 80'
Original:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
FA: Mike Howard and Joel Tinl
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Mike Howard on Sep 1, 2007

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BETA PHOTO: Forever Jung


Climb into large slot with rubble at base, stem onto high step and up under roofs.


Immediately left of Klein's Corner


Bolts to chain anchor. Might supplement with .75 to 1 inch cam at upper roof.

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By Larry Earley
From: Los Alamos, NM
Oct 11, 2009
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Dave Barlow and myself climbed this today. We both feel its a 5.9. We both put a cam (either red or yellow alien will work) in crack under roof in the middle of the climb. We liked this one. Varied moves and makes you think some.
By Mike Howard
Oct 12, 2009

Thanks Larry, glad you enjoyed UV. Sounds like 5.9 is the appropriate rating from the consensus here. Hard to tell after I had toproped it a few times getting it ready. I don't remember the bolt spacing being too far there, but a cam could be nice. Do you recall the size you thought worked best?
By Jean Spencer
From: Seattle, WA
May 20, 2013

I agree it seemed harder than the 5.9 to the right. A little headier too. Fun though, loved the stemming.
By Trevor H
From: Taos, NM
Nov 13, 2016

Sustained 5.8+, with two 5.9 'get in your head' type moves. We didn't use pro under the roof, and that was one of those 'get in your head' type moves getting to the next bolt. Wherever there weren't hand holds, there were always places to bump your feet to get to the next hand hold. Good route.

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