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YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 60'
Original:  YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: T. Davis, K. Rich, D. Rubine, R. Rubine, 12/88.
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Submitted By: Leo Paik on Apr 25, 2007

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Seneca on Foreplay.

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This is a steep climb, described in the guidebook as "spectacular" which certainly draws the eye. It seems to climb steeper than it looks.

Ascend a slightly-overhanging face past 8 bolts. The guidebook notes it was originally climbed without the first bolt.


This is on the far left side of the east face of the Monolith. It is left of Post Orgasmic Depression & Several Small Species.


8 bolts and an anchor.

Photos of Foreplay Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: Pumping up on foreplay.
Pumping up on foreplay.
Rock Climbing Photo: Chris Archer also escaping from the Yosemite flood...
Chris Archer also escaping from the Yosemite flood...

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By caughtinside
From: Oakland CA
Mar 23, 2008

Really good route, more techy and devious than POD and with a much more tenuous crux. Great sport climbing.
By Ian Walters
Dec 30, 2008

Airy, sustained route with a cool feature and a great crux. Killer route!
By LeeAB Brinckerhoff
From: ABQ, NM
Nov 24, 2009

More technical and interesting climbing than POD but also with hollower rock at the top.

Has anyone taken a no hands at the 5th bolt in the scoop? Possibly facing out straddling the knob.
By Keith Forest
May 26, 2010

I have gotten a no hands rest in the scoop by hooking a butt check on the obvious knob. It takes a little rear-end finagling to find the right position and balance. It's a weird position but makes for a good photo op as well as rest. Probably only possible for those of us 5'7" or less.
By Will Barnes
From: Edmonton, AB
Dec 19, 2013

If Foreplay is 11b I would call POD a 10d. Felt like a pretty significant step up in difficulty to me.
By Max Rausch
From: Monterey, California
Oct 21, 2015

Fantastic movements. Move fast or else the pump will catch up to you, especially through the crux. The airy exposure makes the route that more fun. Unfortunately fell at the last steep section, but I'll be back!!!
By obiss
Oct 18, 2016
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

This route is just as fun as POD but a little harder. I recommend having your belayer anchor into the belay bolt for this one - at the very least when you lower off and clean the route, as it's easy to pull them off the block while yarding back over to the start.

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