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Boodler T 
Born To Bleed 
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Chicken Gumbo for Your Dumbo T 
Chicken Soup for the Soul TR 
Feelin' Groovy S 
Fleet Street T 
Fly From Soup to Nuts TR 
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Goose Poop Roof T 
Haj, The T 
Immoral S 
Is It Soup Yet T,S,TR 
Muckraker T 
Mugwump TR 
Not So Moderate T,TR 
Pending Disaster T 
Penny Lane T 
Route to Mecca, The T 
Scalawag T 
Side Effects S 
Singing Love Pen T 
Sir Climbalot T 
Small Claims T 
Soup Nazi TR 
Soupy Sales T,TR 
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Treacherous Journey T 
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Vera's Roof 
You Who Jim T 
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Fleet Street 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c R

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 90'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c R [details]
FA: K. Campbell, T. Swain, 12/98
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Submitted By: Tony B on Jan 1, 2003

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Heading up Fleet Street.

RAIN AND WET ROCK The sandstone in Red Rocks is fragile and is very easily damaged when it is wet. MORE INFO >>>


This climb is so-so, but at least it's engaging. Not something you'll likely forget if you are pushing 5.8 leads from the low end. This may be one of the better routes at Moderate Mecca, but is not a destination climb for Red Rocks.

To find Fleet Street, first locate Scalawag. Starting from the left end of Moderate Mecca's Left side, walk back to the right to find an obvious roof crack with hands-to-off-hands jams and a few holds above the lip; this is Scalawag. Perhaps 2-3 meters still further right is a second crack system that climbs out and round the roof's right side, which is Muckraker.

Fleet Street is the relatively low-angle face just right of Muckraker. Some distance up there is a bolt, and some distance above that one, a second bolt. The climbing continues on small sloping holds, and although not difficult, is insecure. As well, the sparse protection reminds you that it's best to be careful here. Climb upward and onward, occasionally encountering a shallow crack until a ledge is reached. Rap from an anchor on that ledge 90' back to the ground. A 60M rope may be necessary unless you go to a different anchor. Take care.


The Swain book suggests carrying some stoppers to supplement the 2 bolts on this route. As I recall it, I did so and didn't get anything I thought was very worthy. I'd suggest that this route be taken somewhat seriously.

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By 10b4me
Feb 8, 2005

The first bolt has a "hanger" made of an old sawn-off soft iron ring piton with a hole drilled in the blade.

The other bolt has a BROKEN cold shut for a hanger.

Strange, because the bolts themselves seem new.
By 46and2
From: Las Vegas, NV
Nov 22, 2006
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

The last post and route description are spot on! I would NOT recommend leading this thing as the bolts are crap and the moves surprisingly stout for the grade, especially when considering the run-out and don't count on any good gear placements. Better to TR from Abbey Road anchors.
By Mike Mu.
From: hagerstown
Apr 18, 2007

yeah the bolts are pretty poor. I was all over the route looking for the 5.8 move, but could not find it. maybe it felt easier on top rope. i certainly would not want to lead it.
By Cunning Linguist
Jun 29, 2007

This route has its own title for me...worst route I've ever led! Weather deteriorated into wind and rain, making 5.8 seem questionable, the bolts were two outstanding examples of Todd Swain's utter disregard for the hot climber chicks he might be putting in traction by his shoddy engineering and mishmash of unsafe bolts-what a waste of vastly cute girls, Todd. I wouldn't wish the bolts on this on the guys who are still chipping limestone around here-they're just terrible. If you're leading this, you're soloing, so be warned.
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Jan 13, 2008
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

interestingly, there's a pair of shiny new bolts at the top of this route (and Abbey Road), but the person who put them in didnt think to replaced the mank on this route. I've led some sketchy 5.8's, but I wouldnt bother with this one, just TR it after soloing Abbey- this route is definitely not worth dying for.
By Gaar
From: Springdale / Zion UT / Moab
Dec 4, 2008

Decent route, but apparently two fucking idiots who are not willing to donate at least 1 good hanger, put it up!!!bolts are good but hangers are mank..You can get a decent nut before the first "bolt" and a mirco wire, and a larger cam after the second "not quite a bolt".

Just shows the work that people are willing to go through to put up a new route..They must be and accepting local ethics.

By smassey
From: CO
Jan 12, 2010

1/12/10. The "bolts" have been replaced. There are now 3/8x3" w/ real hangers on this route. No new bolts were added, so it is still heads-up, but safe to fall on them... Anything I can do to help Save the Hot Climber Chicks...
By anthony509
From: las vegas nv
Dec 21, 2010
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

Good example of lame runout bolting.
By smassey
From: CO
Dec 29, 2010

I thought the bolts were right where they were needed. The route appears to have been bolted on lead for the FA, since both bolts are at stances. If you were to fall at the crux, the first bolt will be at your knee level. I though this route was a much more memorable experience than say, the 8's at the Panty Wall. If you're adept at placing gear, and don't climb when the rock is wet, adequate gear can be had to protect the moves to the first bolt. Not everything needs to be a rap-bolted sport climb.
By dirty son of a cinch
From: las vegas, nv
Feb 8, 2012
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

really run out for me, so top roped from abbey road-- and great moves from my opinion. probably lame for more experieced climbers--saw a guide jet up it in like seriously two minutes clipping and all (made me feel lame) but great for me!!!
By Cunning Linguist
Feb 8, 2012

Thank you for your efforts to Save Hot Climber Chicks, Scott.

Wasn't it worth it?
By Robert Michael
Jun 13, 2017

Solo TR after leading the first pitch of Abbey Road. Fun and pretty easy, but I think the runout would have scared me had I been leading it.

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