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Oct 11, 2012
Scott McMahon wrote:
Sooo...are you like...even a climber???

Maybe. He sure as hell isn't a biologist:
Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Joined Jan 1, 2001
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Oct 11, 2012
Tony B wrote:
Maybe. He sure as hell isn't a biologist:

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Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
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Oct 24, 2012
This is a First Amendment issue, not a states' rights matter.

Note that free speech concerns played a role in the Forest Service's 2010 decision to temporarily allow commercial filming (with restrictions such as a permit requirements, focus on wilderness values, etc.).

"We're aware of... the connection with the First Amendment for free speech, and our intent is not to regulate that amendment. Our intent is to regulate what's appropriate for wilderness."

- Terry Knupp, Forest Service Wilderness Program manager in Washington, D.C.

Just because the Wilderness Act bars filming for commercial enterprise does not mean it would survive a court challenge. If Dav decided to sell his movie and the feds dropped the hammer, I think it would be interesting to see what a high court might decide and why.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in regulations on filming in wilderness areas, see
Step hen
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Jul 6, 2010
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Oct 24, 2012
The Watchdog wrote:
I expected more from the climbing community, the only time there is any sort of intellectual rumbling around here is when the Mainstream Media tells you to get mad about something, and even then it is the predicable copy and paste of talking points. Want to bring change? We the people need to initiate the conversation, stop being the media's Pavlov's Dog.

So you make a post about "Feds Deny CO Extreme Skier His Place as Great Ski Movie Producer", claiming that they're thwarting his attempt to profit from his work, but then you later thank another user for posting "the rest of the story" when he said the skier in question didn't pull the permits that would have allowed him to do so, just as any other film maker would have to do. I fail to see how what you're doing is better than any of the other sensationalist media outlets.

Then, you turn the entire thread into some outlet for your far-right spewing and call out climbers specifically for not caring? Maybe if you started talking about something that climbers actually agreed with you'd get more support here.

The Watchdog wrote:
God Bless America and thank you for your support.

Has anybody actually supported you so far? I haven't agreed with a single one of your threads and I'd rather not have whatever God it is that you speak of involved with any part of my life. Thanks me all you want, but I won't be supporting your ideas in any way.
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