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Far Beyond Driven 

YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 70'
Original:  YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Chris Miller, September 2001
Season: Spring - Fall
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Submitted By: susan peplow on Mar 3, 2007

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Tom Donnelly starting up Far Beyond Driven


Found on right hand side of crag and just right of large crack system.


Second route from the right and just next to Loose Women, Loose Rock.


8 bolts, chain anchor

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By C Miller
From: CA
Mar 3, 2007
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

This is an independent line left of Loose Women, Loose Rock with it's own set of anchors. It's an ok route, but nothing to get excited about.
By Jeff Scofield
From: Yorba Linda, CA
Jul 1, 2013

This climb is no longer 10a/b. A Key hand or foot pc fell off and now you must go off route to finish the climb. IMHO and my friends whose a really really good climber this climb is no longer worth trying since you have to finish off route. If you go straight up maybe it's really really hard but above my friend's pay grade and he leads up to 11b...
By Jeff Edge
Nov 23, 2014

Thought 10c/d if a hold did break, but I'd believe stiff 10b. also I count 3 routes on this face, there is another route that shares this start and then goes kinda right, felt maybe 5.9 then loose women.. to the right of that. Anybody know anything?
By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Nov 24, 2014

Jeff, there is some stuff up and right of there - Tombstone Pit which has a few routes (both kinda hard) but best approached from up and around from Claimjumper. Is that what you're thinking of?
By Jeff Edge
Nov 29, 2014

No I've done those ones too! There's another route that shares the start with this one. Then to the right is a crack which leads to some funky pockets then to bolts (Loose women, Loose rock, I presume). Then up some boulders to the right is that first 5.8 of Tombstone pit. Might be pretty new?
By C Miller
From: CA
Jun 7, 2015
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

Was just there yesterday and there are no new routes on the face, just the existing ones. Perhaps there is some confusion because the start of Far Beyond Driven and Loose Rock, Loose Women are fairly close together, although they quickly diverge and are wholly independent.

Rock Climbing Photo: Doc Holliday Wall detail, Holcomb Valley Pinnacles...
Doc Holliday Wall detail, Holcomb Valley Pinnacles

A. Far Beyond Driven (5.10b)
B. Loose Rock, Loose Women (5.9+)
C. Shoot at Will (5.8)
By Jeff Scofield
From: Yorba Linda, CA
Mar 9, 2016


Thanks for the beta! I'll give it another go this summer!
By Jack C. Beckley
From: arcadia ca
May 30, 2017

I would say that this route is a little more run-out then the other routes on this wall! Kinda choosy in the middle as well...i probably won't do this route again! Pistol Pete and Docs holiday are WAYYYY better!!

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