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Dec 21, 2015
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Quick question for you all;

What do you like to use for face protection?

I normally carry a buff, balaclava, or both and some lip/face balm.

However just the other day I was sucking wind up a mid-13er with temperatures in the mid-teens and winds up to 30-35mph. My hood wasn't enough protection, and my buff was trapping stale air just as I'm fighting for oxygen. But take the buff off, and my face is ravaged by the wind. I wound up trying all sorts of ways of wearing the buff in hopes of improving ventilation, but with little success.

So, I'm wondering. Do you suck it up on the rare times when nasty weather rolls in? Do you opt for a ski mask, ala rei.com/product/725711/seirus-... ? Do you go all the way to a full mask with heat exchanger, rei.com/product/791255/talus-c... ?


FWIW my lower face is covered with a light beard. That plus the ice on my beard protects my jaw pretty well- it's my temples, cheekbones, and nose that get really exposed.
Patrick Shyvers
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Jul 16, 2013
16 points
Dec 21, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Climbing at the Gallery in Red Rocks
Patrick Shyvers wrote:
Quick question for you all; What do you like to use for face protection?


Usually 3/8" bolts, but for softer rock I'll go with 1/2"ers. Obviously if it's in a tropical environment you have to go with titanium, but for most areas stainless is fine.
kennoyce
From Layton, UT
Joined Aug 12, 2010
2,061 points
Dec 21, 2015
kennoyce wrote:
Usually 3/8" bolts, but for softer rock I'll go with 1/2"ers. Obviously if it's in a tropical environment you have to go with titanium, but for most areas stainless is fine.


Funny. Sort of.
FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
Joined Nov 19, 2009
284 points
Dec 21, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Me on the summit of Cerro Escuela on the Northern ...
The Seirus brand balaclavas (or whatever you want to call it) are THE way to go. I think I have the one you linked to and I wore it in -50F (wind chill) conditions regularly last winter (and will again this winter). Breathing in them is no problem. khammer
From Kinda All Over
Joined Mar 9, 2013
21 points
Dec 21, 2015
FrankPS wrote:
Funny. Sort of.


Not really.
jaredsmokescigars
Joined Jun 6, 2014
68 points
Administrator
Dec 21, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Mastigouche
I've used the old OR Gorilla mask a while ago with ski goggles, worked great on Mount Washington in 100+mph winds.
outdoorresearch.com/en/ws-gori...

Using some Dermatone face balm does help a lot when you're getting pelted by ice crystals.
Luc
From Montreal, Quebec
Joined Nov 27, 2006
8,841 points
Dec 21, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Aleks
climbing friend,

you would be using this
Aleks Zebastian
From Boulder, CO
Joined Jul 3, 2014
162 points
Dec 21, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Best climbing pants EVER
I use a regular Buff. I never found conditions to be worse than a buff could handle, including Mt. Washington and RMNP in winter.

And I normally have a short beard most of the year, but I really hate having one in winter. It ices up and then feels 10x worse than just exposed skin.
Jon H
From Boulder
Joined Nov 24, 2009
138 points
Dec 21, 2015
yeah i like the good ole beard mustache combo. get some fresh pow freeze and thaw and some snot in there and its bulletproof. Unassigned User
Joined Dec 31, 1969
0 points
Dec 21, 2015
Patrick Shyvers wrote:
it's my temples, cheekbones, and nose that get really exposed.

Cheeks and nose, sure, but your temples? With a sufficient hat or balaclava and goggles those shouldn't be exposed at all.
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Dec 21, 2015
1. shave pubes
2. glue to temples and cheek bones.
3. problem solved
Unassigned User
Joined Dec 31, 1969
0 points
Dec 22, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: Climb of an easy water ice route near Colorado Spr...
It sounds like you were hyperventilating if it trapped that much stale air. Take deeper fuller breaths using the buff, and try different mouth, lip shapes with nose exhaling. Double buff, one on neck and mouth, one on head.

That rebreather would be appropriate on Everest, or in a Star Wars movie.
Faulted Geologist
From Lawrence, KS
Joined Jan 7, 2015
161 points
Dec 22, 2015
The neoprene makes are nice, but I found it helped to cut a few connections in the breathing holes to make a couple of bigger holes.

But yeah, proper breathing is key.
Deliberate deep breaths and full purges every so often .
Ya gotta clear the co2 out to let the o2 in...
Blowhard McDouche
Joined Dec 7, 2015
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Jan 6, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Climb of an easy water ice route near Colorado Spr...
Full breaths is the key, to the point that you feel the diaphragm fully extend - the diaphragm will get stronger over time and make this a natural thing. Most people only use part of their lung capacity. Force the breath out; this causes increased pressure, which helps gas transfer at the molecular level.

I have a thicker felt or fleece like baklava that I wear when it gets uber cold instead of the buff. More surface area captures more moisture to dehumidify the air on the way back during the inhale. Making it fit right in the mouth is important. If it is loose, the air goes down to the neck and jacket area, and then you breathe that old air back in. That is why I prefer the Buff.

Running often in cold dry air tempers the cells along the throat to withstand more dryness. We are weak with our temperature and humidity controlled environments. Try driving with your windows down and head out the window in the inbetweens.
Faulted Geologist
From Lawrence, KS
Joined Jan 7, 2015
161 points
Jan 6, 2016
Clint White wrote:
I have a thicker felt or fleece like baklava...

Doesn't that get all sticky with the honey and everything?

Baklava:


Balaclava:
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Climb of an easy water ice route near Colorado Spr...
Aww, horseshit! I am not sure I can blame that on autocorrect! Some baklava would be nice, and might help. Honey in the beard isn't good though. Faulted Geologist
From Lawrence, KS
Joined Jan 7, 2015
161 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style
I only like covering my face when I'm sitting/standing still - otherwise, balaclavas, buffs or neck gaiters just get condensation from breathing and freeze up, which really sucks. I use a Buff for my chin/cheeks, but don't cover mouth/nose and put some sort of petroleum jelly product on my face when it's cold or very windy. I forget the name but there is a product that has a Norwegian flag on it, comes in a tiny tin that you could purchase in ski shops. But it's basically glorified marked up Vaseline. doligo
Joined Sep 26, 2008
412 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style
mmmm, baklava! Damn you, Marc801, tempting us here trapped in the culinary wasteland... doligo
Joined Sep 26, 2008
412 points
Jan 12, 2016
doligo wrote:
...and put some sort of petroleum jelly product on my face when it's cold or very windy. I forget the name but there is a product that has a Norwegian flag on it, comes in a tiny tin that you could purchase in ski shops. But it's basically glorified marked up Vaseline.

Are you thinking of Dermatone?
dermatone.beaumontproducts.com...
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
64 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Jose Cuervo Fruitcups dirtbag style
That's it! I love that stuff. Oh, and my bad it used to come with Swedish flag on it. I'm confusing it with Neutrogena that uses Norwegian flag... doligo
Joined Sep 26, 2008
412 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Bocan
Man's face protection

Rock Climbing Photo: Face protection
Face protection
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
1,377 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: wiped
i just cut a 1.5-2" hole right where my mouth will be but still allowing my to pull the buff over my nose. has worked well for me Jake wander
Joined Aug 11, 2014
168 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Freaking Maverick over here
a beard like that is a +1 on anyone's man card The Blueprint Part Dank
From FEMA Region VIII
Joined Jun 21, 2013
464 points
Jan 12, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Another day at the city.
I've been using these for a few years now and love 'em! They have insulated and non insulated versions. Both work like a champ in any conditions.

avalon7.co/product-category/fa...
Bonneville
From Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined Dec 2, 2013
154 points
Jan 13, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Hammer Block
We have a name for beardless freaks. Women. Jeremy in Inyokern
From Inyokern
Joined Jul 10, 2012
80 points
Jan 13, 2016
Rock Climbing Photo: Bocan
Jeremy in Inyokern wrote:
We have a name for beardless freaks. Women.


This
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
1,377 points


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