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YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b

Type:  Sport, 40'
Original:  YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b [details]
FA: Mike Wise, Jim Patterson 1972
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Submitted By: saltlick on Jan 20, 2011

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Mixing it up on Empathy.

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Interesting and technical face climb between The Wasp and Lilley's Delight. Start up the bolted face 20' to the right of The Wasp, following the bolt line closely as it moves gently left and up...too far to the right and you encounter easier terrain near Lilley's Delight (5.8); too far left and you find yourself on the thinner and slippery-er Master of Dafeet (5.11). Bring your partner up after you and tackle Sympathy or Prime Directive next for the best "multi-pitch" climb at the Gorge!


Approach via the Main Wall trail. Route is just above and right of the point where the trail reaches the wall.


5 bolts, bolt anchor

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Rock Climbing Photo: Going up Empathy
Going up Empathy
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Navigating the slippery terrain of Empathy.
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Left to Right: Master of Dafeet follows the promi...

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By sdrockstar81
From: el cajon, CA
Oct 21, 2012
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

Sweet balanced tip-toe moves keep you moving through thin features on decent rock quality for mission gorge.
By Jackie Trejo
Feb 1, 2013

This climb is very hight dependent.. anyone shorter than 5'5" at the least, is going to have a sketchy lead..
By ChaseLeoncini
From: San Diego, California
Mar 28, 2013
rating: 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

Did this climb yesterday, didn't see a fifth bolt like it says but the last 15 foot (possibly where another bolt is missing) is 5.7 climbing. Great climb. Nearly no feet makes it difficult but also easy to see where that one and only foot placement actually is.
By Tom Thomas
From: Pittsburgh
Jul 28, 2015

I found this route to be quite fun and solid for the grade. here are some pics of me solo leading this cool route.

Rock Climbing Photo: Starting up the route with a classic tree anchor f...
Starting up the route with a classic tree anchor for the belay.

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Rock Climbing Photo: nearing the anchors..
nearing the anchors..

Rock Climbing Photo: looking down the route from the anchors..
looking down the route from the anchors..

Having fun I know I did..
By Justin Bruce
Mar 13, 2017

I do not know if I have been doing this route correctly...I start to the right and clip easy first bolt and thenn I'm following the arete and clip second bolt. Then I move on to the face with far left leg, and right hand on a little Gaston like hold, push out and left hand on a nice little slope, right hand moves onto a bomb little ramp, do high foot and push to third bolt (crux) and then continue upnon the face..does this seem accurate at all?
By Mackenan Grassi
Mar 13, 2017
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

The route description is spot on. The climb starts on the face and trends gently left as you go up. It is very easy to go too far right and find yourself on Lilley's Delight at either the start or finish. The climb is much more sustained when you stay as true as possible to the bolt line. Justin, you're definitely starting on Lilley's. ChaseLeoncini's comment sounds like finishing on Lilley's.

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