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Emotional Geometry 

YDS: 5.10b French: 6a+ Ewbanks: 19 UIAA: VII- ZA: 19 British: E2 5b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 65'
Original:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Jason Desmond
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Jason Desmond on Nov 9, 2010

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Located in a National Forest Fee Area MORE INFO >>>


Climb Stoic Calculus and continue up and right to a nice hand crack with good pockets, slightly overhung at the top. Though this route has been thoroughly cleaned small rocks may still come off until its been climbed more. Use caution as this is a popular area and there may be other groups below.


Seven more bolts to ring anchors. If you plan on being lowered to the ground from the upper anchors YOU WILL NEED A 70 METER ROPE. With a 60 meter rope you will need to lower back to the anchors of Stoic Calculus.

Photos of Emotional Geometry Slideshow Add Photo
Rock Climbing Photo: The last five bolts and anchors.
BETA PHOTO: The last five bolts and anchors.
Rock Climbing Photo: John Ross in the crack above Stoic Calculus.
John Ross in the crack above Stoic Calculus.
Rock Climbing Photo: Emotional Geometry. Note the rope through anchors ...
BETA PHOTO: Emotional Geometry. Note the rope through anchors ...

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By Ken Noyce
From: Layton, UT
Dec 9, 2010

Nice job, I've wanted to bolt that route for years. I can't wait to get on it.
By KipHenrie
From: Farmington, utah
Jun 1, 2011
rating: 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

The name for this is really good. The upper crack area is emotional and its an unusual crack feature for the area with its bizarre geometry. Off width crack with all kinds of different holds and body positioning. The trickiest part being the feet. Have fun but be careful, its still getting cleaned up. We had some rock fall doing it.
By Ryan Stott
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Jun 16, 2011

VERY CHOSSY. As mentioned, this route has some fun, interesting crack/layback movement that you dont find in AF very often. I'd rate this climb higher if it didn't have so much loose rock. Wear a helmet on belay if you have it.
By Aaron Shields
From: Lehi, UT
May 21, 2013
rating: 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b

May 2013 - pretty clean now, though the crack is still painfully rough. Good thing it's a short crack! Awesome natural continuation of stoic calculus, and not bad if your crack technique is good
By Jeremy Noring
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
Mar 25, 2014
rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b

I'm not sure if something changed, but this route felt significantly harder than 10a or 10b to me. Possible something broke? I'm no crack climber, but the 11b/c around the corner felt a lot easier to me...
By Matt Olson
From: Salt Lake City
Oct 29, 2014
rating: 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

Great route! Definitely worth jumping on. Seems like there is only a small portion that requires actual crack climbing technique. I'm not a crack climber. Bolts are placed well and found no choss. There's a great knee-bar halfway up the crack that saved me.
By jeff p
From: Golden
Mar 13, 2015
rating: 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b PG13

Very unique to have bolts on a nice crack, but I'm glad I got to jump on it. My partner and I used it as a good route to practice multi pitch, but it is definitely doable from the ground with a 70 meter rope and a crap ton of draws. Belay station at the first set of anchors is comfy and you can easy see/hear your climber. I did find some loose rocks in the crack but nothing I would say is cause for concern,,, just have your belayer wear a helmet.
By CHopwood
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Mar 21, 2016

+1 run this as one 35m pitch. So nice to do a long pitch in this canyon of short routes. And how often do you get to do a sport climb and finish on a fun hand/offwidth crack?! Warning, the crack is super sharp so prepare to lose some skin if you jam too deep into it.
By samwisesam Treharne
Oct 25, 2016

If you want to lead stoic calculus, then straight into emotional geometry, you will need 16 draws. Use only one at the chains of stoic calculus and you will have enough.
By grog m aka Greg McKee
Jun 30, 2017

I am a crack whore so I was PSYCHED to see this. I climbed it from the ground up, super fun pitch and I highly recommend doing it as one long pitch. Crack is very clean, no choss. There are no offwidth moves unless you want to get crazy and make this way harder than necessary. 5.10a hand jamz.

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